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Post by Donnalex on Jul 21, 2007 13:08:20 GMT 1
Good for you smonebull! Lets hope everyone who ends up with one has the same ideals as you obviously have. Some people are very good at using emotions for their own gain as Zoe did. Lets not forget the outrage felt only a few weeks ago and take in account this is on a much bigger scale.
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Post by sixfootblonde on Jul 21, 2007 13:22:10 GMT 1
Looks on the french forum that the liver chestnut mare may have a home? But do not speak french.
My friend has just spoken to our farmer - and we have use of a 30-40 acre field with lovely organic grass. So we could take a few. But we would look to rehome them. Bear in mind that we never move on a horse normally as we are way too picky, we would vet homes well. It would give the horses more time and they would be cared for well. What do you think?
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Post by indibindi on Jul 21, 2007 13:38:21 GMT 1
Please do be aware that there is a reason these horses will go for meat... you are buying unseen, untried - don't forget to allow yourselves an emergency fund if they come across and are ill, lame - or have behavioural issues....
I think its commendable what is happening here - but we must take care not to get carried away...
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Post by cesca on Jul 21, 2007 14:15:22 GMT 1
If you can't afford to get £1k together to buy a horse, you sure as eggs can't afford to keep it!
Having a horse bought by donations and given to an individual is a minefield. Years ago on here I offered to donate to rescue a horse, then realised, when a "home" came forward that was, in fact, already looking to buy exactly the type that was being saved, but would take it paid for...that I was being a fool and my cash would be better off directed to the ILPH.
The plight of these horses breaks my heart, but I completely agree with gillmcg. I am so pleased for those who have been saved but also fullyaware that we can't save them all and we most definitely can't STOP such practices by proceeding in this way - all we've provided is an infinitely improved marketplace for the trade that's doing this in the first place.
I will be pledging my support to the ILPH on the other thread, asking for it.
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Post by cesca on Jul 21, 2007 14:16:18 GMT 1
And erm sorry for being a nosey cow but what on Earth happened with zoeshiloh that's been alluded to on here??!
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Post by gem on Jul 21, 2007 14:32:10 GMT 1
cesca see mods thread on belle - please dont comment about zoe on here its too important to get it removed!
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Post by sixfootblonde on Jul 21, 2007 14:48:43 GMT 1
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Post by sixfootblonde on Jul 21, 2007 14:50:27 GMT 1
Please do be aware that there is a reason these horses will go for meat... you are buying unseen, untried - don't forget to allow yourselves an emergency fund if they come across and are ill, lame - or have behavioural issues.... I think its commendable what is happening here - but we must take care not to get carried away... Absolutely! There is a few of us round here who are friends with different skills and can help. I am hoping a friend will help as I am a really busy person atm and am not sure I have the time. This is what I am trying to work out
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Post by iwillbuy on Jul 21, 2007 14:52:10 GMT 1
six foot blonde you said you don,t have the finances to buy or ship a horse over then you go on to say you would rehome the horse you got this is what i am talking about who does the horse belong to the person who paid or the person who cares for it i am not singling anyone out just showing what a minefield it could be
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Post by iwillbuy on Jul 21, 2007 14:55:04 GMT 1
and now not the time either , so please don,t let your heart rule your head, it seems to me more people need to think long and hard about this
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Post by sixfootblonde on Jul 21, 2007 15:00:10 GMT 1
OK yes I see your point. I would hope to be able to reimburse whoever has paid. I am thinking if I only had the one then I would look to keep it. If we got several then I could not keep them all permanently but it seemed like there were people here happy to pay for some but could not care for them. So we might be able to help with the caring side. That is all. I am NOT looking to make money AT ALL. Not in the slightest. For me it is all about saving horses from certain death, and for me the pregnant ones really touch me. I cannot believe humans can do this to another animal. Really sad I never sell any of my horses normally. Because you never know where they might end up So for me, to part with one, even a rescue one would be really hard.
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Post by sixfootblonde on Jul 21, 2007 15:38:15 GMT 1
But this is why I have not committed yet. I am thinking about this and discussing it. A friend of mine may well take one. Just trying to work out a way to help. Cos once they are gone they are gone, and if I could have done something to help and didn't I will feel so bad.
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Post by monet on Jul 21, 2007 15:56:02 GMT 1
OK do you know what is really worrying me? is the fact that so many of you on here are saying "i will have one, but cant afford to pay for the horse and the trip over....
OK we all no that horses cost money so why commit to something knowing you don't have the funds to pay for all of it and then hope that the horse does not have any illness or might NOT need a vet when it arrives. would you all not be better to pool your ideas and good intentions in setting up a French based charity/sanctuary at a property and save a few horses this way or seek out a French based charity already in situ that can help...i noticed that there are a few people here who are in France and lets be honest NOT all French based people are horse meat eaters!
what is worrying is what happens to that mare and foal if thingschange...the horse will need to be rescued once again and end up with EMW or me, i dont rehome due to the fact by the time they get to me they are on there last legs bless em.
i am happy to help in any way i can i have friends in France who are equine lovers and i have set up a charity before...so feel free to PM me if you so wish.
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Post by gem on Jul 21, 2007 18:03:42 GMT 1
it does make me think when you hear people saying I will home it and sell it on, as thats not what its about - if you home a horse and take responsibility for a horse you have a duty of care to keep the horse but circumstances do change and in that case id like to see the horse loaned to an IH home after talking with sarah who put the money up.
I find it rather tiresome people who say if you dont have the odd 1/2K in the bank you cant offer a good home because thats rubbish - I have insurance for my horses and vets fees are covered by that - any horse rehomed will be insured upon transfer of ownership - if anything happens in the 14 days the insurance would cover it - people like me who boringly dont have thousands in a bank have credit cards for vets fees and vets who let em pay monthly if needed - we also have monthly wages that cover an extra horse.
I have never seen anyone come on here and say to people looking to loan that they shouldnt have a horse because they cant afford to buy - thats double standards!
I dont need another horse to ride I have Sky and D will come to it eventually so I was offering purely to save a horse - who may need me even if it only has 6 months to live or 15 years as a lawn mowing machine
Im unfortunate in that i offered a home for a single horse because I know thats why is in my power to provide and sadly it seems that the only one has people queueing up for her as shes a youngster so im limited to the help I can give now - I will still help but can only do so with the advanced notice that either the mare or foal will have to be rehomed at weaning as I cannot fund two - i have been very clear about this so as not to upset anyone but more importantly the horse
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Post by welshcob on Jul 21, 2007 18:33:39 GMT 1
what you have written here gem is totally true i never have no money in the bank after ive been paid but my horses are all up to date with vaccinations worming farrier and what ever else they need all are insured its poor me that cant have a new outfit or new shoes but where would i wear them up at the farm i dont think so
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