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Post by Carole on May 23, 2006 13:29:41 GMT 1
Hi AH, if this is a Cherif Qualifier, the standard will be very high, we do these often as we have both pb and AA. What I will say is your horse is very similar at a glance to one we had that qualified, but they will need to be in outline and working correctly. Def. Navy jacket but a tweed will pass. Def. Not white jods (sorry really need cream or corn type colours to compliment the shirt/tie/buttonhole/scrunchie if worn) Ideally not covered skull cap either, I don't think I have seen one yet in a Cherif class, can you borrow one of the velvet hats (navy to match jacket). Tack really wants to be havanna and straight cut saddle Browband should be coloured, and most will be in double reins, you can do this without riding off the pelham rein have it long and loose. Any numnah should match saddle colour and be barely noticeable. Sorry but that mane will need taming , shortened and plaited, tail either pulled or plaited. Here is a pic from 2yrs ago when daughter one the Cherif qualifier at Fenland Arab Show. Make your show simple but correct and use the whole area, you will be asked to extend, make sure you can tidily get him back before the corner.
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Post by Carole on May 23, 2006 13:51:36 GMT 1
hope this one is bit less blurry That day my daughter won 4 diff. classes and it was the first time she had taken him out, he was so good (well mostly ) You will need to do quarter marker and sharks teeth too, and dont forget brown or at a push navy gloves. Also in the show where you change the reing if you are able to show some medium trot then go for it but only do enough so that he does not end up running or over balencing.
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Post by amelia on May 23, 2006 13:58:25 GMT 1
Carole - that pony is beautiful, just wondered if you could give me some advise (sorry to interrupt thread OP) when (and if) my foal is born and everything goes to plan i'd like to show him/her when they're a bit older. It will be registered PBA as mum is reg. 50% arab. However, sunny (the mum) won loads at county level when she was a youngster but since i've owned her i've let her mane grow long and have shown her only unaffiliated where she is always taken as a pure bred (and has beaten many purebreds :-) ). When i show the foal at foot i'm happy to plait the baby but i really don't want to pull & plait mum. If the class is purely judging the foal would i get away with doing a tidy arab plait in sunny?
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Post by specialsparkle3 on May 23, 2006 14:07:52 GMT 1
Again Amelia, it depends what level of show you intend to do. If local , I don't suppose it matters although, even then it will put her at a disadvantage. Any bigger, then to have any chance at all Sunny will have to be plaited. We only plait foals however when and if their neck is a good enough shape to plait. If it doesn't siut it, there is no need to do it, and that's at County level. although as the mane grows and starts to lie down, you must keep it short and neat. I always plait foal's tails.
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Post by Carole on May 23, 2006 14:12:03 GMT 1
Thanks Amelia, I will pm you my direct email and I can send pics and advice direct then. If you are purely doing the foal class, as long as the mare is clean and show presentable tidiness, then yes you will get away with it as they will think she is a pure bred anyway, though if she has done well at County standard why not give her a whirl in some of the broodmare class's under PUK rules. You could end up with qualifying mum and foal Send me some pics of mum too (I'm nosy) Who did you send mare to?
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Post by arabheaven on May 23, 2006 14:17:00 GMT 1
wow, thanks carole so much to remember i dont have a skull cap like that im afraid so mine will have a cover on it brown gloves with a navy jacket, or black? i currently ride him in a wintec pro synthetic dressage but am getting a black leather GP this week, Im assuming the GP will be the better option? haha.. qaurter marks, i reeeallly need to get practicing those. have a thread ont his forum but have never done them before, really wish people down my yard did showing and could show em how to do them! i will introduce him to the double bridle, but he has such a small mouth that if it looks ridiculous or really bothers him (ho doesnt have bit seats for a double bridle, just his normal snaffle) then I will stick to my new cavesson bridle. he does a LOVELY extended trot when he is excited (which I am able to slow down) but I am yet to get him to do this on cue at home, hopefully he will be excited at the show and showing off do they tend to line horses up in the middle or to one side of the area? im thinking it its in the middle and a long line then the ends will be tight, but is it better to show more trot or more canter?
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Post by arabheaven on May 23, 2006 14:25:27 GMT 1
will i have to do an individual show if it s says that the judge will ride? ro will it just be the judge riding after the main ride? willt here be an in-hand bit after ridden? is this a good plan for individual show?
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Post by Carole on May 23, 2006 14:36:47 GMT 1
AH if you can practice those quarter markers well in advance and then you will have time to keep getting them wrong before the big day when nerves will get better of you go for the Navy jacket, if his saddle is going to be black then use a black bridle to match, when you talk about a double are you meaning a proper weymouth double? if so and you find him uncomfortable in two bits, then try a pelham, either a mullen mouth or happy mouth style, so you get the effect but can leave the pelham rein nice and long, but do do the schooling in this for a bit just to accustom your horse to it. My daughter only ever schools in the snaffle at home (after the initial climatizing to pelham), none of our current horses take two bits either, we do all the County and the Nationals in the pelham. Really should be brown gloves but at push navy, but seing how you are in navy jacket but black tack I would go for navy so as not to many colour schemes going on As for the extended trot, it needs to look perfomed rather than him just taking advantage, practice in-hand by teaching him to extend to a toungue click sound and really run, once he knows the sound on the ground, do the same in saddle just as you give with the hand a little, we found not using to much leg initially as they tend to run on and over balance, you want to half halt and collect then the click and allow the steps, only giving out as much rein to allow the head and neck to lengthen which will accomodate the longer strides, the horse should obviously be working correctly from behind and accepting of contact before you are at this stage remember too that a few quality steps are better than a quantity of rushed ones. How long have you got before the show?
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Post by specialsparkle3 on May 23, 2006 14:39:48 GMT 1
That's perfect unless the judge asks for something else. Make sure you finish in full view of the judge and bow. You usually do a show as well as the judge riding , like a hack class, but not always because you will be asked to take your saddle off and show you horse stripped. You will need a friend, wearing a hat, to come in and groom for you.
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Post by Carole on May 23, 2006 14:42:40 GMT 1
Sorry cross posted.
Our show is a bit different we do the fig 8 after the first walk away bit, then pick up canter after last trot diagonal, canter fig 8, then the extend, we also do rein back as our do it well but thats not necc. for PBA, its just sometimes its what clinches our first place when there is little else to choose between.
That said your show plan looks find you have included all the essentials, dont rush the bow either make sure neddy will stand and not dive to the line up (been there done that with a youngster)
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Post by arabheaven on May 23, 2006 14:53:20 GMT 1
its not until 27th july im getting prepared WELL in advance! he extends well over trotting poles so I will practice him associating trot poles with clicking then try to get him doing it gradually without poles. these are the double bridle bits, hope it is clear
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Post by arabheaven on May 23, 2006 14:58:15 GMT 1
will there be enough room to do a figure of 8 infront of the line up?
my boyfriend is the only person going with me! what will we need to do? just take saddle off then stand or walk up to judge as directed? trot at all?
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Post by Carole on May 23, 2006 14:59:07 GMT 1
Yes that a proper weymouth bridle (known as double), ask if anyone has a pelham you can try before splashing out, then all you need to do is remove the extra headpiece and you can use the same bride for the pelham. I wish I was nearer I love to come and help you, show prep is something I could do all day every day! I think SS3 and I should set up a business and travel round doing clinics
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Post by arabheaven on May 23, 2006 15:03:56 GMT 1
i ahve that bridle carole ;D
someone was selling it at a show for £100 and mum said it was a bargain so bought it for use 'one day' - 5 and a half years ago!!! so now its out and cleaned and ready to be used! so do i remove the snaffle or the other bit and then change the remaining bit for a pelham yes?
what is the other bit on my bridle out of interest (im terrible, only ever use a snaffle!)
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Post by arabheaven on May 23, 2006 15:04:57 GMT 1
hmmm Surrey... SS3 isnt too far from me!!
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