vab
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Post by vab on Dec 28, 2010 19:10:49 GMT 1
My youngster is kicking the stable door constantly - she broke it last night and because our bedroom is close to her stable its waking us up in the night - i guess she is bored but hubby is getting fed up - any ideas on how to stop her please?
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shandypants
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Post by shandypants on Dec 28, 2010 19:16:20 GMT 1
I have a door kicker ... but thankfully only when he knows he is getting food or turned out. Have you tried treat ball or a hanging licket to stop him getting bored. If that fails put old bit of carpet on the back of the stable door!?
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Post by Trouble on Dec 28, 2010 19:17:02 GMT 1
Put up a chain across the door and leave the door open so there's nothing to kick?
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Post by specialsparkle3 on Dec 28, 2010 19:18:02 GMT 1
 Horses, especially babies like the noise kicking the door makes. So, eliminate the noise and you eliminate the kicking. A stuffed Hessian sack nailed to the inside of the door used to be the answer, but can you get them now  ?? Also some horses like to rip them up.  Nowadays rubber matting is an easier option. 
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Post by Yann on Dec 28, 2010 19:20:06 GMT 1
Is she anxious about being stabled? Dealing with that or working round it would be my first thought.
In the meantime making it more difficult by putting a bale of hay in front of the door for example might hopefully keep the domestic peace.
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Post by jill on Dec 28, 2010 19:21:16 GMT 1
We use aversion therapy with door kickers and door bargers - an empty tin or plastic tub (with or without pebbles to make more noise) chucked at the outside of the door mid-kick usually startes them into stopping. Try not to associate it with yourself though (so no shouting, pretend to be doing something else etc) or they will quickly learn it only happens when you are around and taking notice.
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Post by mandal on Dec 28, 2010 19:42:10 GMT 1
I'd be asking why is she kicking like Yann and looking to change things for her. If it's going on for long periods I'd be worried she isn't eating etc. and could be quite stressed. I take it she does have to be in? Could she go with another horse in a bigger stable/barn?
Once it's become a habit or even a stereotypical behaviour, stopping it may well take expert behavioural help imo.
Of course I'm no expert or experienced with youngsters either for that matter.
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Post by specialsparkle3 on Dec 28, 2010 19:42:13 GMT 1
In the meantime making it more difficult by putting a bale of hay in front of the door for example might hopefully keep the domestic peace. Sorry Yann but PLEASE vab, don't do that. A youngster caught up in baler twine around a bale is not a good thing. I had a yearling who literally LOVED the noise he made smashing his stable walls down Great holes in the kicking boards -------------the risk of damaged legs and no, he had no issue with being stabled he just liked the noise  I had the whole stable lined with rubber to kicking board height and that was it. He never kicked the walls again. Vab, just be grateful it's only the door |
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Post by Olivia on Dec 28, 2010 21:53:06 GMT 1
If you have looked at liferstyle e.g. enough turnout/food etc then... QuitKick, marvellous thing. They set it off once, maybe twice, then never again  www.quitkick.com/ |
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Post by Yann on Dec 28, 2010 22:03:36 GMT 1
Fair comment.
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Post by anastasia55555 on Dec 28, 2010 22:15:38 GMT 1
cant think of any answers im afraid.
What does that device actually do? Just had a look at video, does it let off a high pitched noise or something?
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Post by happysnail on Dec 28, 2010 23:03:47 GMT 1
Ian vandenburg showed ankle bracelet type things made of ball bearings that jiggle on the hoof wall to discourage door kicking.
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Post by jen1 on Dec 28, 2010 23:32:13 GMT 1
Kicking doors - how to stop it? open it and let them out when there quiet ,dont pay any attention to it at all ,see it as the youngster trying to train you , im all for the habit breaking but this behavoiur didnt just start with out and outright door kicking , start at the begining and find out why he is doing it, Ian vandenburg showed ankle bracelet type things made of ball bearings that jiggle on the hoof wall to discourage door kicking """and what other back up was provided to this pearl of wisdom?"" isnt this a" bit" like using a collar on a windsucker ? a whip on a annoying horse ? not as severe obviously but negative all the same, |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2010 23:57:40 GMT 1
Jen, the 'bead bracelet' is designed so it distracts them, not hurts. The idea is to take advantage of the fact that horses are very easily distractable creatures, if they start to kick, they feel movement on their pastern, then stop to look at what caused it.
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Post by jen1 on Dec 29, 2010 0:07:51 GMT 1
i didnt think for one minute it did hurt, this is not a new idea it was used when i was a nipper, what im saying is it might achieve a result, but surely someone like ian would back it up with wisdom, that was my question , yes it distracts them but why should it be in that situation why not tackle it intelligentley to treat the cause and not the sypmtom ,as my lovely frank would say in the rocky horro,
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Horses, especially babies like the noise kicking the door makes. So, eliminate the noise and you eliminate the kicking. 
?? Also some horses like to rip them up. 
Nowadays rubber matting is an easier option. 
I had the whole stable lined with rubber to kicking board height and that was it. He never kicked the walls again. 
