bundle
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Post by bundle on Jan 2, 2011 10:25:41 GMT 1
Dinosaurs are just the right word for most of the mainstream horse societies!
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Post by donnalex on Jan 2, 2011 11:13:25 GMT 1
It is such a pity this has come just before renewal time. If it had come in the summer we could have all let them know that unless the Parelli stuff was not endorsed in any way then at our next renewal the membership would not be kept going. As it is threatening the BHS with that would not be effective as it is too little time to sort anything out. Not renewing memberships is not the answer as you cant do anything if you are not a member really. In the days before the hunt ban the RSPCA had to stop pro hunting people from joining the RSPCA to stop them having a vote. I would suggest that next time there is an election of trustees/board members/whatever they call them (can you tell I just bin the stuff without reading) then the nominated people are questioned on their stance on the Parelli cruelty. But I cant help feeling that deep down at the bottom of this big money will be involved. The Parelli cash generating machine is very effective and they can afford to pay their way in. It is surprising how peoples beliefs change very quickly when they see pound signs. Look at Tony Blair, he has said he regrets touching hunting yet we all know that they were pledged a lot of money to do it. Let alone what he had in his back pocket for Cherie to invest. Even so, the amount of money they got out of it did not equal the bad feeling the anti hunt bill created and his demise. But hindsight is a wonderful thing. He would not implement a ban again. Somebody somewhere in the BHS may have had a very comfortable Christmas indeed thanks to Parelli cash???
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Post by heather on Jan 2, 2011 12:00:49 GMT 1
You and me both, Donna, re the money. I will see what response my emails get before I decide what to do.
Heather
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Post by tikkatonks on Jan 2, 2011 12:23:20 GMT 1
I think its a good idea to email the BHS and express views- particularly if you are only renewing because of the Gold insurance!
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lassiesuca
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Post by lassiesuca on Jan 2, 2011 12:35:06 GMT 1
Is there some form of petition which we can sign, Heather? x
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Post by Catrin on Jan 2, 2011 13:32:10 GMT 1
Is there some form of petition which we can sign, Heather? x You could email Dave Prince the editor of British Horse, the publication which is offering the prize d.prince@bhs.org.uk
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Post by heather on Jan 2, 2011 14:07:12 GMT 1
Have already done so, but I wish it was only the publishers , Greenshires, offering the prize, Catrin, it clearly states that 'The BHS is teaming up with..........'
Surely in the light of the very bad publicity that the Parellis have generated for themselves in the last year or two, any such competition should be thoroughly vetted by those in the highest office at the BHS?
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Post by rj on Jan 2, 2011 15:41:57 GMT 1
Sorry Heather, but I think this is out of order. The Parelli system has, & is capable of, helping a lot of people. I don't know Pat & Linda personally, but I have followed their programme over the years. I doubt very much that they are evil monsters. The BHS take a lot of flack - damned for being old fashioned, damned for being contemporary. It's up to everyone to do what they feel is right, but to condemn a system and people on the strength of those video links, and the other witch-hunts, rather than informed and intelligent research is a disgrace. We will never all agree on anything. But there IS something out there for all of us, nowadays, so just choose what path you want to take and let others do the same. There are much more worthwhile campaigns to get involved with, on behalf of horses.
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cuffey
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Post by cuffey on Jan 2, 2011 16:00:08 GMT 1
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Post by heather on Jan 2, 2011 16:13:25 GMT 1
Welll rj, you are perfectly entitled to your own opinions. Personally, I wouldnt let either of them near my simulators. And my condemnation is not just regarding those video links. I have seen the results of over zealous application of Parelli methods, and not just by novice owners, but by higher level Parelli people themselves. Heather
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Post by mandal on Jan 2, 2011 16:15:46 GMT 1
Whilst I hate that clip and know nothing much of Parelli in general I do think rj has a point about BHS being more open and modern and damned if they do and... Surely people should be able to make up their own minds in the end? Back to my high horse thing about taking responsibility for your own actions rather than blaming the influence of otherts...
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Post by anastasia55555 on Jan 2, 2011 16:50:03 GMT 1
IMO everyone is entitled to an opinion what ever it maybe Heather isnt forcing people to complain, i dont like the fact of the BHS 'teaming up' with Parelli, so il say so, which is my opinion. If other peoples opinion is the opposite then no one is making them do anything they dont want to. I dont consider my self as jumping on the anti Parelli bandwagon, as i havent just suddenly decided i 'hate' them for the sake of it or because thats what my peers think. I just dont agree with what they do, and i dont like the way they go about their 'business'
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Post by anastasia55555 on Jan 2, 2011 16:52:05 GMT 1
Have to say i do like the look of the WHW offer. And not purely because of the Parelli thing, because it suits my interests more!
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Post by heather on Jan 2, 2011 17:26:09 GMT 1
The last time Parelli tried to get into the BHS, I sent the BHS a copy of the In a Whisper DVD, and, the attempt was blocked.
I am all for moving the BHS into the 21st century, but as a welfare organisation, surely they have standards to uphold? Are they also in favour of Linda Parelli's riding methods, which fly in the face of everything in the BHS Manual and everything remotely 'classical'?
I can see why the BHS would link with the CRC, which stands for everything to do with humane riding and training, and on Classical lines, and I applaud Patrick Print for getting Kelly to do CPD days.
But to me, there are oceans of difference between Kelly's logical and practical ground work/loading etc, and the force shown by the Parellis in much of their work.
Heather
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