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Post by Ally S on Oct 14, 2007 14:10:47 GMT 1
Last night was a brilliant night. I think this is the best Monty demo I've been to, and it was amazing to watch Pie, Archie and Fire. I've been to lots of Monty demo's now, but this tour is different, and Monty's riding is just breath taking. Pie and Kelly are as closely bonded as ever and it's a joy to watch them having fun together.
Re Eebony, the loader, I understand what you're saying Devongirl, but as Catrin points out, once she's gone in the lorry, the procedure and trust will be in place for trailer loading. I've personally found it easier to load 'bad loaders' in trailers than lorries to be honest. Ebony's owner was given advice during the day and has details of superb local RA Dan Wilson who can help her if she has any further problems.
Thanks to Kelly, Monty and the team for a great demo.
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Post by bidefordgirl on Oct 14, 2007 20:22:26 GMT 1
Yeh last nite was fantastic, 1st 1 i had been to and loved it, i love the way kelly rides too its amaizin n i cnt wait to go to next years! it was so gd to watch crasker and ebony the loader and sid, it was amazing and thank you kelly and monty for a fantastic show! it was fab x( good to meet them in person too will always remember it)
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Post by sebbykins on Oct 14, 2007 23:24:49 GMT 1
I went to the Grange in Okehampton (Sat 13th Oct) to see Monty and Kelly, twas the 1st 1 I've been 2 but I can honestly say it will not be the last - it was truly amazing.
I spent nearly the whole evening with my jaw 2 inches off the ground !!
Loved Seeing Monty Ride, he's just wonderful and so was Archie (I even got 2 kisses when he signed my books and baseball cap!!)
The problem demos were excellent and inspriational - I totally dig that Monty talks to his audiance from the perspective of the horse, telling us what the horse would be saying to him - very comical, I had loads of laughs.
Really enjoyed Kelly's demos with the stunning Americal Pie, Particularly jumping the picnic table - WOW!
I agree with some of the others in that it would be great to see how Monty would deal with horses that rear or buck to avoid work they don't want to do.
Can't wait to come and see you both again.
Thanks for an amazing evening.
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Post by jaydevon on Oct 15, 2007 13:46:11 GMT 1
Hi all, i went to the demo at the grange, devon i took my horse (bad loader) he wasnt used in the demo but the team loaded him in the afternoon, and yes he was a s**.
ive personally always wondered what the horses are like the next time they are loaded, or after monty and kelly have worked with them how are they with the owners, well, yesterday we hitched up the trailer. i put the dually on and off we went, i think i was hoping he would walk straight in and headed for the trailer with this in mind, ok silly me, pluto had another plan, but after watching the team and taking montys advice and only 1 tantrum he was walking in and out without a rope on. i shall leave it a few days then repeat it.
his ease of going in was deff down to the team, but also myself actually listining to what i was being told... have a longer line (incase he pulls back, he did) dont make eye contact and have a bucket with a handful of food in, which i did. and also the backing up this i think was the most important bit as the moment he knew where he was heading he started backing off and swing his quarters.
the whole evening was great, monty as always is not only a excellent horseman but also a personality, and to see kelly having fun with pie was great, so many people that own horses are to uptight. kelly laughing at pie when he decided a leap and buck and flying change all at once was better than a easy change was great. (ok naughty) hes a clever horse and clearly loves the atmosphere!
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Post by Sue Palmer on Oct 15, 2007 17:35:40 GMT 1
Hi jaydevon, So pleased to hear that you and Pluto were able to take on board everything that the team helped you with! Well done with practising your loading, and taking the time to continue to help your horse work through his issues. As a Recommended Associate, I work with lots of horses and their owners / handlers to overcome loading and travelling problems. It sounds like you've made a great start - I'd just like to make a suggestion that you load him regularly over the next few days if you are able to, rather than waiting a few days before you try again. I recommend to most of my students that if they are able to after I have worked with them, they load their horse twice a day for 2 weeks (take him on and off the trailer about 2 or 3 times each session), then once a day for 1 week, then take them out on a short trip (20 to 30 mins) round the block, loading them straight back onto the trailer once they return home. Do a couple of 'round the block' trips, loading straight back into the trailer each time you return home. Then you're ready to go out somewhere - choose a place that you are easily able to hack home from, and trailer your horse there, leaving plenty of daylight so that if for any reason you needed to hack home you would be able to. Take your horse for a hack / lesson / schooling session (nothing to tiring or stressful), then load him to take him home, again re-loading him as soon as you get home. Once you've done this a couple of times and feel confident to load him in a relaxed situation like that, then you're ready to start going out and about proper! Remember each time you load him to have some food in a bucket in the trailer for him (have the food in a rubber bucket in the front of the trailer waiting for the horse, so that it is a reward, not a bribe - he gets to eat the food as a reward for being in the trailer, it is not used to tempt him in). Make sure you also have food in the traier when you load him straight after returning from a trip out. And inbetween your trips out, keep going with the occassional loading session that just involves going on the trailer for a feed, then off again, so that he doesn't always think he's going somewhere. I know it sounds like a lot of work, but anyone who's managed to stick to the whole program (and most of those who've only managed to stick to part of it!) has not needed to call me again for a reminder! Good luck, and keep up the good work! Sue Recommended Associate of the Intelligent Horsemanship Association www.holistichorsehelp.com
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Post by jaydevon on Oct 16, 2007 8:45:20 GMT 1
Hi Sue, thank you for your feed back, i shall continue the work as its important to have him loading stress fre (for both of us) i do have the bowl of food in the trailer and gave him a handful each time he went in. im deff not going to let anything go backwards... poor hubby on the way home got a bit stressed with me keep telling him to slow down, nothing is going to give my boy a bad experiance in the trailer!!!
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Post by (\^/) Lotuspoint Joe (\^/) on Oct 19, 2007 1:46:02 GMT 1
What an excellent demo at Greenlands EC A fantastic horse to meet is "AMERICAN PIE" a brilliant well behaved lad and a gentlemen, i worked with kelly earlier the afternoon with "PIE" to jump a few fences and to get him loosened up he was brill. Monty's horse Archie is also a star what an excellent demo.There was a youngster for the members demo, a very spooky horse and a 17+hh georgous clydsdale for a non loader that the owner had walked 6 miles to the venue, but the IH team gave him and his owner a lift home. Merchandise sold really well and i look forward to going to the gleneagles demo and now thinking of doing the 2 days at Myerscough College. Another great demo from a great "TEAM"
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Post by doreen on Oct 19, 2007 7:21:37 GMT 1
just been to greenlands in cumbria, what a great night. definatly needed thermals on . gave me confidence to try all the things ive read about,and put them into practice. Well done Monty for loading that heavy horse, I thought he had beaten you ! very impressed that its now none profit making , please continue the good work.
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Post by chestnutarab on Oct 19, 2007 19:27:11 GMT 1
I agree, this was one of the best demo's I have seen. Plus I got to see my horse (Fudge) in the ring with Kelly, it was amazing to watch. I was really pleased with him I could not have faulted him once all day. Both Monty & Kelly were really nice and all of the people helping with the tour.
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Post by (\^/) Lotuspoint Joe (\^/) on Oct 19, 2007 20:39:26 GMT 1
chestnutarab fudge was well qute, even though the tb mare i had last year fudge was her son.. Hope you keep up the great work that was started with fudge at the demo in the members demo.. PM me and let me know how you come on keep it up though.
That's me addicted to a IH Team member as i'm now going to the 2 dates at Myerscough College 3rd & 4th Nov
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Post by rosemaryhannah on Oct 21, 2007 17:58:59 GMT 1
Just back from Gleneagles - thought it was a really fantastic demo. First horse was a youngster being started - lovely horse who worked really well. There was a really really spooky horse, a nice chap, I thought, called Angus. He was not rideable, terrified of everything. Monty worked hard with him, getting him to accept being touched with a bag on a stick on his left side, and, less happily, on his right. Then he worked with getting him to walk over plastic tarpaulins - although Angus was still on edge, by the end he was walking steadily ON the tarpaulins with no lead, with Monty at his side. I thought Monty's explanations of this were excellent - and even the less experienced and non-horsey members of the audience would follow his account of how Angus 'knew' this Uncle had been attacked by a plastic bag which bit him (it tied itself round his nose) and how Angus 'knew' the 'lake' had crocodiles in it. His calm calm voice telling us what Angus was saying must have steadied Angus very much.
The riding was a delight. Kelly and Pie were so so accomplished, and Pie SO fearless, I'm sure I was not alone in finding it hard to believe he was once a problem pony! (I mean, I know he was, but today it looks so hard to believe!) The Western horse, Archie was the most beautiful horse, and Monty rode him SO well. I was VERY glad he took a moment to show his spurs were rubber (Monty's spurs being something I guess many of us have to defend at some time!!)
After that, Monty and Kelly 'schooled' together, and Pie showed of his flying changes. I thought it very impressive that they were prepared to admit to 'work in progress'. those of us who have worked with young horses know that to really produce an all rounder takes a LONG time unless you are incredibly lucky (and especially if like Kelly you are juggling horse riding and developing YOUR horse with other work) ... I thought that one thing we need to take on board is that we can ALL work with our horses... because how often do you meet people who just want to 'have' a push button horse they don't work to develop or even maintain?? To see even those of the calibre of Monty and Kelly working is (for me) inspirational.
The last horse was a loader, and if I have any criticism of a splendid evening, it is that Monty might, with advantage, have explained a little more how he works a Dually - I know, but I suspect others perhaps did not quite understand.
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Post by (\^/) Lotuspoint Joe (\^/) on Oct 21, 2007 18:37:52 GMT 1
Well i'm back from Gleneagles what a fantastic demo just short of 1500 people visited to watch the demo..My 1st time at Gleneagles and what a nice place but a shame the stables arn't a bit closer to the main arena and the lighting outside is very poor. Other than that i myself was rushed of my feet 1st on the door then helping with the horses and organise things in the round pen and PIE'S special entrance.. All other helpers worked really hard too.. These fantastic tour's could not go ahead without us helpers..
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Post by rosetila on Oct 21, 2007 19:12:33 GMT 1
Hi, I've just arrived off the boat from Scotland, I was at Gleneagles.... ok.... this comment is going to be very very hard, I need to explain that I'm not great with words and explaining how something made me feel but here goes....
Firstly I dont get emotional at all, I mean AT ALL, I have been in some hairy situations and have had an interesting past and nothing makes me emotional!! I have been to Gleneagles before and been studying his concepts for 10 years now, when I first read his book The Man Who Listens to Horses 10 years ago (which I found at a sale and hadnt been around horses in a while due to how I felt about tradional horsemanship) I got it straight away!! no questions I GOT IT!! so what I'm saying is I'm no stranger to watching him deal with problems. but last night was different, the first horse was extremley frightened, really shaking with fear, I've never seen a horses knees nearly bang together with trembling so much, and as we all expect Monty got the horse over the worst of its fear and had it walking over a sea of tarpaulin... now I cant really find the words to explain but I felt so emotional that I started crying and couldnt stop for ages, it was unbelieveable!!! he fills me with soooo much happiness because of how he is helping people and horses, I can bearly think about it deeply or I'll start again... Montys concepts have helped me be such a good parent, I do things completely the opposite in every way as to how I was brought up and his teaching have been a tower of strength to me... I felt so at home over there with all the like minded people, and on the way home I felt really sad at the thought of having to come back to my area where no one really gets it.. but I am determined to change that.. and last night gave me the kick of insparation that I needed, I'm booked onto Kelly course for April so I'll take it from there... in the mean time I'll continue to work with my wee French Rescues Horses and quietly prove to people at my yard that there is a better and easier way!!
Ok so back to the demo, well Kelly and Pie were fantastic, Pie is a star and clearly loves his mum and his work.. his was a complete gem and so entertaining. and Monty and Archie were equally fantastic, and boy I learned so much about flying changes, I just get it now!! I hadnt a blooming clue before last night, even my hubby gets and he cant ride!! thats how clear it was...
The last horse was the loader, and again as we expected he schooled to the dually and loaded her within about 20 mins.. no probs to our Monty!! I was trying to tell people at my yard tonight and they are very polite but really I think there thinking.... yea right that horse couldnt of had a problem with loading.. and the others think hes some sort of magician!! I just cant convince people that its not rocket science...
I did approach Monty again last night and asked him about coming over to Northern Ireland, I said I can sort venue and basically everything, and he said to contact Debbie to discuss it.. I really need Monty and Kelly over her just once for one big demo!! by doing this it will start the ball rolling for me to continue after my training.. Monty and Kelly, I really need yous to come over her just once for the horses!!! My own goal in life is to change the general way of thinking over here.. I know there are maybe a few like-minded people, but we really need to get to the big fish..
Last night was the most emotional time of my life... I thank you for adding to my passion.. I really hope there is a way yous could come over here for one big demo!! It would make an unbelievable difference and I will learn to carry on teaching these concepts in this country... I wouldnt change a thing about the evening, it was amazing.
Thanks Monty, Kelly and team.. what a memory!!
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Post by (\^/) Lotuspoint Joe (\^/) on Oct 21, 2007 19:26:13 GMT 1
Tia what a nice story about Gleneagles Demo and your passion. Yes the spooky horse was amazing the horse just wanted to be with Monty walking over the green lake after giving all his trust on Monty and coming to the end of the spooky horse was the background music which Monty really talks about the horse and has gave great trust in Monty and has to trust his owner from there..
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Post by janco on Oct 22, 2007 3:10:47 GMT 1
Towerlands - A inspirational evening, I loved the ridden section and was so interested in Monty's explanation of the horses anatomy regarding the canter transitions. It was fantastic to see him ride in the different bridles and would have liked maybe a little more explanation of the different ones that he used and how they are used. Pie was a star and did so well over his obstacle course and his dressage bit (loved the white boots). How do you get your horses to do it? I would love some ridden training DVD's on how you do. HINT HINT.
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