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Post by heather on Jul 31, 2007 11:00:31 GMT 1
I personally love the SRS/Portuguese classical method of being really close to the rump, but the Danish method is definitely safer!! Jenny is brilliant at this method, and with Miss Stanier having taught her, has had the best of teachers.
Becky tends to use both methods- we really only use the roller because it hitches the reins out of the way when using CT and giving the treat! But also with horses that are unused to the feel of long reins, it does help not to get your brains or innards kicked to blazes!
But later, we would revert for the short long reins- for want of a better term!- and without the roller. Obviously even the highest level work can be done the Danish way too- but for aesthetic reasons only, I love to see the SRS or the Portuguese school of Equestrian Art with their beautiful baroque saddle cloths and roller just securing this, but not the reins. Paul Sergio who is the rider from the Portuguese school who is the long reining expert, was a student of Luis Valenca for years, and still works there many afternoons, and is a friend of mine. He is an absolute master of the short long reining technique and it is such an art form in itself. I am sure he can dislocate his hips when walking after a horse in canter in long reins, he can get such a long stride!!
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Post by suewhitmore on Jul 31, 2007 11:25:52 GMT 1
And BTW, the method of trailing the reins is the German way - called "ground driving"
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Post by trudi on Jul 31, 2007 13:00:36 GMT 1
Heather said'' Paul Sergio who is the rider from the Portuguese school who is the long reining expert, was a student of Luis Valenca for years, and still works there many afternoons, and is a friend of mine. He is an absolute master of the short long reining technique and it is such an art form in itself. I am sure he can dislocate his hips when walking after a horse in canter in long reins, he can get such a long stride!!'' In that case Mrs. Whitmore, should you ever choose to long rein at the canter it may be advisable to get a full leg transplant from a sprinter, what with you and your knacked knees ;D ;D I still dip into Sylvia's long reining book on occasion, didn't know she was local Sue. I personally love both lunging and long reining, sorry and am probably a bit off the norm as I rarely lunge with side reins after the early days with a youngster (I'm ready with my trainers to sprint behind the settee to avoid the flack ) I've got some questions re:work with clicker/long reining but I don't have time right now (should really be packing ready to move but sneaked off for some light relief on here). Yours Trudi
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Post by suewhitmore on Jul 31, 2007 13:29:10 GMT 1
In that case Mrs. Whitmore, should you ever choose to long rein at the canter it may be advisable to get a full leg transplant from a sprinter, what with you and your knacked knees ;D ;D I still dip into Sylvia's long reining book on occasion, didn't know she was local Sue. Trudi, Are you completely mad? What makes you think I would ever long rein at the canter? Even collected canter? I have enough trouble keeping up with their lovely stepping walks. No, I'd get you to do that. ;D Yep, Sylvia is just down the road, used to see her quite a lot at Richard Lust's place. Funnily enough, given the other thread, I talked to her years ago about trying to set up long reining as a competitive event, like a dressage test, as it is so good for *people*. We decided that if the lower levels were cavesson only, even real beginners couldn't do the horse much harm.
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Post by trudi on Jul 31, 2007 16:10:00 GMT 1
There are some Sue, who say I am!!! ;D But they do say it takes one to know one
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Post by Cobstar on Jul 31, 2007 18:42:12 GMT 1
What a brilliant idea. Him indoors - who got dragged into being interested in horses if he wanted to spend any time with me :lol: - has expressed an interest in learning to long rein. He's been very impressed by the demos Jenny has done. He's not interested in riding but it would be fantastic if he gets into long reining etc. My lovely single long reins - to Becky's spec - have just arrived from Iberiana tack (thank you Chapsi!) and my retired cob is suddenly going to find herself a long reining guinea pig again. Yep, Sylvia is just down the road, used to see her quite a lot at Richard Lust's place. Funnily enough, given the other thread, I talked to her years ago about trying to set up long reining as a competitive event, like a dressage test, as it is so good for *people*. We decided that if the lower levels were cavesson only, even real beginners couldn't do the horse much harm.
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Post by Cobstar on Jul 31, 2007 18:45:57 GMT 1
Becky tends to use both methods- we really only use the roller because it hitches the reins out of the way when using CT and giving the treat! But also with horses that are unused to the feel of long reins, it does help not to get your brains or innards kicked to blazes! I love all the long reining options there are and the flexibility this gives you. My first practical experience was using my cob as a guinea pig with the help of a friend that hard worked on a driving yard. We didn't use a saddle or roller, just took the reins over the back just behind the withers. Jenny is very encouraging about just giving it a go. And people like Max and Michael Peace have helped give me the courage to do just that by saying that it doesn't matter if you have to drop the lines on the floor or whatever. I love pragmatism and practical, effective horsemanship.
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Post by heather on Jul 31, 2007 18:47:03 GMT 1
Great idea for Carrie, Cobstar! Mind you it might come as a bit of a shock to her to start with!
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Post by Cobstar on Jul 31, 2007 19:26:54 GMT 1
Great idea for Carrie, Cobstar! Mind you it might come as a bit of a shock to her to start with! Hi Heather I'm sure she'd prefer a little bit of exercise by long reining rather than having to come and stand in - she's rather plumptious at the moment. You and Becky need to get working on that DVD - him indoors says he learns best by watching.
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Post by heather on Jul 31, 2007 20:09:31 GMT 1
We have already shot some of it- at least, the CT part, but Fanta has resolutely refused to cooperate, in that he immediately develops a 'fifth leg', er, if you get my drift......... ................as soon as a camcorder is trained on him !!! Every blinking time we have tried, out it comes. Now as an outtake, this would be funny, but to have it swinging in the breeze in time with his belly and knowing it is happening, reduces Becky to a giggling heap, and anyone else watching! So there are going to have to be some retakes- he is so good at the work, but it is a bit of a problem, the little monkey. Anyone any ideas? ;D Heather
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Post by trudi on Jul 31, 2007 20:59:21 GMT 1
Oh gawd bless him does he get it out for any other reasons or does he just fancy himself on camera?
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Post by heather on Jul 31, 2007 22:35:52 GMT 1
Purely on camera, Trudi, and hes not even a stallion!! Our PRE stallion does it with an audience too!
Heather
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Post by Louise C on Jul 31, 2007 23:05:23 GMT 1
You've obviously got him too relaxed Heather!! Flynn's always like that with my trimmer!
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