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Post by Desperado on Jan 1, 2007 15:20:47 GMT 1
Anyone know anything about this breed?
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Post by ponytails on Jan 1, 2007 18:15:39 GMT 1
lol looks like no to that question , i use to want one think there lovely but not know what there like sorrry
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Post by sallyandruby on Jan 1, 2007 19:08:19 GMT 1
here is a little section about them in one of my horsey books, ill try and find it and have a look for you !!
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Post by sallyandruby on Jan 1, 2007 19:19:06 GMT 1
sorry no such luck must have left it at my dads !!
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Post by sallyandruby on Jan 1, 2007 19:21:26 GMT 1
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Post by ally on Jan 1, 2007 19:30:00 GMT 1
the encyclopedia of horse breeds
incredibly strong with great stamina, bravery and intelligence,the Morgan horse is widely used for leisure riding all over America. they have an attractive head set onto an arched and muscular neck, the shoulders are very powerful, the chest broad and the back wide and short. the croup is often long and rounded with a well set tail. they have solid strong legs that are short in the cannon, with well made joints. the Morgan has a characteristic stance with front end thrust forward and the hind legs straight out behind.any solid colour is permissible and they stand between 14.2hh-15.2hh.
sorry got no personal experiences of them
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Post by sallyandruby on Jan 1, 2007 20:19:43 GMT 1
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Post by pip on Jan 1, 2007 21:34:02 GMT 1
I have a Morgan horse. He is rather large, being 16hh, and he stands out somewhat when we are in the ring showing. However, he is an extremely nice looking horse and he possesses the exceptional Morgan temperament, very easy and co-operative, they actually seem to like people. He is so nosey - he is always gawping around and wondering what the person in the garden is doing, so he wants to go and see ........................
I wanted a Morgan for their reputation as family horses (it is a long story) and I knew of the stud in Herefordshire, but for years they were too expensive, and I had almost given up as most of them were too small. When I bought my chap he was already big and I gaily said I didn't mind how big he grew - thinking he might be a sturdy 15.2, as around 15.00 is the normal size, I didn't think he would get as large as he has. He is not a very "good" example as he is too long in the body too, but he is still a nice boy.
We Morgan show in Hunter, Road Hack and do dressage, trail classes too. He can jump, but I'm not much good at jumping now. There are also Western classes and the saddleseat classes of Pleasure and Park, where the horses have the very high stepping trot and they have long flowing manes and tails and the riders wear saddle-suits. Lots of Morgans drive too.
Morgan showing is much nicer than English, because it is over much quicker. The judges do not ride the horses, and you usually only have to remove the tack at Championship level. American judges are pretty strict and expect a high standard of turnout, riding, presentation, schooling, just as much or more so that English judges, it is just different. Because the classes don't go on and on it means that you can enter 2 or 3 classes.
Morgans are lovely horses, the people involved are nice too. There are studs in several parts of the country and a stud in Shropshire that breeds a lot of Morgan x TB - very good looking, but with just a dash of sense provided by the Morgans.
I don't know why they aren't more popular. Considering the low numbers they have been extremely successful in competitions. Two driving teams qualified for the Horse of the Year Show driving this year, another stable has been Reserve and Champion Driving Horse of the Year, some compete at endurance, some eventing (a Morgan was in the winning Riding Club team a couple of years ago), trec, show jumping, Riding Horse showing, dressage. They will turn their hoof to anything.
Want to know anything more?
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Post by Desperado on Jan 1, 2007 23:25:04 GMT 1
thanks for that pip, the morgan stud in shropshire isnt far from me and i love the look of mossrose triumphant, hes a lovely colour.
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Post by pip on Jan 2, 2007 13:32:23 GMT 1
The riding style of saddleseat is very different, as is the theory and equitation behind it and I raise my eyebrows quite a lot at some of the american training methods, but most owners do their own thing and ride and train the horses how they want.
One stable that did well went to Heather Moffet for dressage lessons, then when it came to Morgan showing they put on the different tack, rode in a slightly different style and went and took part in Pleasure Horse saddleseat classes, and did well. The principles of having the horse balanced and collected, ready to obey the rider's aids are the same, whatever riding style is adopted.
There is another stable in Kent that competes the same horses in dressage, western and Morgan classes.
In Park and Pleasure the horses are ridden in long-shanked double bridles, but the reason is that they should be so well schooled and light in hand that they only need the most delicate and refined of hand (in theory anyway!).
It is quite different to riding "long and low" and dressage, so it is easy to condem, without knowing the whys and the history.
They are a lovely breed and owners love it when people come up and ask about them.
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Post by emi on Jan 2, 2007 14:21:29 GMT 1
There's a Morgan at our yard who's gorgeous. He's about 15hh and is a really nice weight - not to fine but not particularly chunky either. He's really friendly and has the nicest, kindest look in hnis eye. I hear he's also really nice to ride - responsive, with a huge jump.
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Post by apachepony on Jan 2, 2007 14:54:50 GMT 1
Would love one, but sadly way out of my price range I imagine...
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Post by Donnalex on Jan 2, 2007 15:24:08 GMT 1
A friend of mine has a pure bred one. She has not been an easy horse in any way really. She is difficult to load and travel, absolutely mental in all but the lightest traffic and is generally the work of two horses her size. She is filthy in the stable and will not settle and is clingy with her fieldmates, screaming all the way round on a hack. She is very bargey both in hand and to ride and has never really had a nice mouth. All in all shes a real mareish mare. And she does not have any ability over a fence really, preferring to skim over or run out. Her plus points are that she is nice looking and really kind and friendly with people. Having only ever met this one horse, it is not a breed I would rush out to buy! The plus poin
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Post by mrsj on Jan 2, 2007 20:32:39 GMT 1
A friend of mine has morgans, in fact Pip you would have probably heard of her prefix Starwood, her one mare is by Monnington Maestro one of the foundation stock from Monnington Morgans in herefordshire.
They are a super breed and can turn their hooves to anything aswell as looking damn gorgeous but like you say they can be on the pricey side.
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Post by pip on Jan 2, 2007 20:41:00 GMT 1
She sounds a nightmare! I'm not surprised you're not impressed! "Bargey in hand and to ride/not a nice mouth" would imply not the best of early handling. I'm not defending the breed - there are some families I wouldn't want to touch.
The stud I bought mine from did a wonderful job of handling my horse as a foal/young horse, they really did all the work for me, so it has made him so easy. They even delivered him in a horsebox as the stud manager doesn't like trailers with young horses and I think she also wanted to see where he was going.
When I was considering buying my horse someone kindly rang me up and told me that the dam had jumped a wall when pulling a carriage - twice! But all her offspring have had exceptionally good temperaments! I did see the stallion being ridden by a teenage girl, so I reckoned he was OK.
As for affording one - you might be surprised. You can always make an offer, particularly if it isn't considered "show quality" The only thing is that the older horses don't often come up for sale. Most people buy one and keep them.
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