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Post by lavenderlanebabies on Aug 9, 2005 13:11:54 GMT 1
Hi
I have been quite cynical about the passport scheme and whether anyone would actually bother with them at all. Anyway I moved my horse yesterday and the transporter asked if I had mine with me, which I didn't as I had sent it off as only just bought the horse, he then said he had been stopped twice recently by police and asked to produce the horses passports, this is very reassuring isn't it.
So always have your passport with you when travelling, it might be you!
Carol
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Post by anon on Aug 9, 2005 16:04:07 GMT 1
You don't need your passport every time you travel, though. This is victimisation by the police (hoping to make a quick buck)
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Post by Liz on Aug 9, 2005 17:37:35 GMT 1
Not sure I quite understand the reasoning behind your comment, Anon!!
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Post by anon on Aug 9, 2005 18:00:11 GMT 1
does that make more sense?
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Post by varkie on Aug 9, 2005 18:03:01 GMT 1
I'm afraid I still don't quite see your point Anon. I don't see why you think its victimisation by the police? The law is that you have to have a passport, the police are merely checking whether you do or not.
As to whether you have to have your passport on you every time you travel, well, no you don't, but most of the time probably. For most people, rather than trying to figure out the legislation, it'll probably be easier just to have passport on them whenever they travel the horse.
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Post by williamsis on Aug 9, 2005 18:59:17 GMT 1
I recently bought a pony off a lady and she told me that she always carries her passports since her friend was stopped also.
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Post by RiP Its A Matter Of Principle on Aug 9, 2005 19:40:33 GMT 1
I understand what Anon is saying, that is like saying that every time you drive you must carry your drivers licence, and i know that alot of people dont carry theres, as i dont, but as long as you can provide your licence to your nearest police station!! I think its a bit unreasonable to expect people to carry a passport for there horse all the time, these arent small documents! I mean for example say a person is traveling there horse for personal use, not showing, and is stopped and asked for a passport if they cant produce it on the spot what are the police going to do? unhook your trailer and hook it up to there car and take your horse away? under arrest i think not!!
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Post by thelwell on Aug 9, 2005 22:53:45 GMT 1
well i never carry my pasports and when i get stoped or asked at a show i make them come to my house it peed them well of last time they had to
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Post by Liz on Aug 9, 2005 23:20:46 GMT 1
In future you may well find that you will not be allowed onto a showground without a passport - certainly at big shows/qualifiers. Racing people have had to do this for many, many years so I really do not see what the problem is!
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Post by thelwell on Aug 9, 2005 23:22:02 GMT 1
problem is if your pasport gets stolen basicly they got full right of your horse unless you can proove it
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Post by thelwell on Aug 9, 2005 23:22:37 GMT 1
and as our local shows said at min they dont care if they are pasported or not
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Post by pip on Aug 9, 2005 23:31:57 GMT 1
I took a photocopy of mine and keep it in the glove compartment of my towing vehicle. Someone I know was stopped when they were on the way to a stud with 2 mares, when they certainly should have had the passports!
I don't think the really big shows will bother to inspect the passports because for the classes there you have to be a member of a breed society or showing society and give your registration number when entering, therefore all these people WILL have a passport for the animals anyway. I have had passports with my last 2 horses when I bought them as they were already registered, although I had to get mine updated last year to comply with the new laws.
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Post by ann on Aug 9, 2005 23:33:45 GMT 1
At some BSJA shows and County Shows they ask to see vaccination records. This is now included in the Passport and so may need to be shown. Last time my vet stamped the passports and the old type vaccination record but said that she thought that in future they would only be stamping the passports.
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Post by pip on Aug 10, 2005 9:16:45 GMT 1
Yes, of course, silly me. Flu injection records are inspected and these are on the passports. They are very strict about this at the Riding Club competitions and people get stopped from competiting if they are not correct, even if the dates of the first injections ages ago weren't right.
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Post by erarab on Aug 10, 2005 9:40:24 GMT 1
I'm afraid thats not true - they can use it to try to sell a stolen horse etc but it doesn't give them any rights to your horse and you don't have to prove anything - after all the passport has your name and address on it!
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