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Post by Francis Burton on Dec 17, 2005 17:30:46 GMT 1
Geezer??? Look again WR - that's my mate Irena - and she's a lady!! Well, it wouldn't be the first time wildrover had trouble distinguishing gender! LOL! ;D
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Post by kas on Dec 17, 2005 19:15:06 GMT 1
Aw... ;D I must admit it isn't a great photo. I see that these pics were photobucketed, so I'll set up an account and start a new and dangerous thread... mwoooaaahaaar!
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Post by wildrover on Dec 17, 2005 20:04:01 GMT 1
hmmm - not a geezer? As most on here know by now, I dont normally get things wrong.
Perhaps some closer inspection is required here!!!!! - Do we have contact details?
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Post by anon on Dec 17, 2005 20:24:27 GMT 1
Avoid the avoidable accidents ......
there are plenty of unavoidable ones to keep you on your toes
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Post by circusdancer on Dec 17, 2005 21:59:43 GMT 1
I've not logged on for a couple of days so it took me some time to read this one. Boy, hasn't it moved on? There has been a big shift away from moving around the front/back end to crawling underneath and sliding off the bum and now standing atop! KAS there has been a mention of lying down with your horse - I think you should share that picture, it seems appropriate. WR and Lucitania, you are both right in emphasising safety but you do seem to be taking it to the extreme when discussing it with people who "know" their own horses. I'm sure none of them would be stupid enough to go underneath the horse they know and trust if there was an inkling that the horse wasn't completely chilled. It is all about the bond and when you have it, there is no mistake. I have a photo actually of a 13 year old girl underneath her 16.3 former hyper huntmaster's Cleveland BayxID. Yep, I've done it too but I know the limits and I wouldn't dream of doing it with one of my ponies. He would freak! It's not all black and white.
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Post by laura on Dec 17, 2005 23:54:12 GMT 1
I have seen Kas's lying with TP and I am sure she will be happy to share it ...... meanwhile here is one of me chilling with Taz ( argh re the growing out perm ) , rarely ever anyone around with a camera to take photos of Taz and so this one is quite special. (this one a link as I cant get it to go small to fit on the page!!!) i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/tazzle22/tazbonniejenny013.jpgand here is Jenny having a quiet moment with Taz in the field ( note the matching hair colour ) and one I realy love ..... Carley a few years ago with Morris , a wonderful gentle shire I had the honour to lie in the field with as well
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Post by wildrover on Dec 18, 2005 0:01:00 GMT 1
Circus - you are saying that people who "know" their horses can predict its actions. I am saying a horse, any horse, can act unpredictably in certain circumstances, e.g. sudden gust of wind etc.
I think anon put it in a nutshell - avoid the avoidable ...... simple really......
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Post by kas on Dec 18, 2005 0:03:51 GMT 1
Sorry WR - I have started a don't do this at home thread! The requested photo of me and Tee Pee is on it. It's slightly different to the black and white one some of you have seen before.
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Post by circusdancer on Dec 18, 2005 0:20:49 GMT 1
Circus - you are saying that people who "know" their horses can predict its actions. I am saying a horse, any horse, can act unpredictably in certain circumstances, e.g. sudden gust of wind etc. I think anon put it in a nutshell - avoid the avoidable ...... simple really...... Nobody can predict a horse "reactions" but owners can have a very good insight into the state of a mind of their own horse. For example, a sudden gust of wind might one day spark a fearful reaction but a howling gale the next wouldn't raise a hair. Some people are able to see the difference and recognise that what they might get away with one day, they may not on another occasion. It boils down to knowing your horse.
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Post by jor on Dec 18, 2005 0:23:58 GMT 1
Ahh see now posting pics of kiddies near horses. Horse might spook and stand on child!
I actually rarley say anything about my son and my ponies on here knowing the response it would get!
My son (18 months) comes in the stable with me and my stallion, he sits on my stallions back, 'grooms' him and helps me brush the stable out when we have mucked out. He has even been known to hug one of his front legs (with me going argh nooooo!!!) though Percy didnt mind one bit as they adore each other Id just rather him not have hold of my ponys leg!) and although I normally either have hold of him or have myself between him and the horse I am 100% confident Percy would never harm him whatever he did. My son also 'helps' with the other ponies, today he was 'helping' clip my 2yr old coloured, he sat on his back and I wrapped one arm around him and I clipped the ponys neck with the other hand. He helps lead the ponies to and from the field, he holds the ends of the leadropes and off he goes with me hanging onto the headcollar or other end of rope. He comes for rides with me on my Highland, he sits infront of the saddle with my arms round him, he has even started to hold the reins and steer, and he thinks a short trot is hillarious!
Now a few people have commented that letting him anywhere near horses is very dangerous, but I have to disagree. He has been around horses since he was born, hell the DAY he was born I was stood int he field teaching my sister to lunge my highland whilst I was in labour! he is never left unsupervised anywhere near a horse regardless of how well I know them, he never goes near any of the ponies I am even remotely unsure about and he is always less than an arms distance away from me. He already shows signs of being a talented horseman and I do hope he stays interested in horses as my lot adore him and they are all SO careful when he is about.
Am I an irresponsible mother for letting my son interact with horses at his age? I would say not though Im sure people will disagree.
I must get some pictures of him saying Hello to the 16.3hh tb mare and playing with his future pony (the coloured 2yr old)
I do expect to be judged for allowing my son to come into my stallions stable but then when I was 3 I was allowed to ride a very naughty shetland in the back garden with someone just watching through the kitchen window and by the time I was five I was jumping said shetland over milk crates and bambo poles without a saddle, then I was allowed to buy myself an 'unsafe' pony who very few people would ride and since then Ive bought all manner of unsafe dangerous and written off horses and ponies and been able to turn many of them into loving family ponies and competition horses. I thank the people in my life who let me do that and although I have been quite badly hurt it has never been the fault of the horse/pony that has caused the injury and although I will carry some of those injuries and higher health risks for the rest of my life I wouldnt change a moment.
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Post by wildrover on Dec 18, 2005 0:24:47 GMT 1
Fully agree with you circus - aint got me no problem with what your saying there. A storm force gale aint no prob but a fluttering leaf is a biggy ....
All I am saying is - under the belly aint the place to be if a fluttering leaf happens to pass by ... aint no owner can tell me they can predict when a fluttering leaf might come by.....
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Post by laura on Dec 18, 2005 0:36:32 GMT 1
ROFL ;D ;D funny how you pick out WR from peoples posts to make them appear to be agreeing with you ......... to me the main part of circusdancers post was about owners knowing day to day what they can "get way with" with their own horses........ so if you FULLY agree with CD as you say then as you said before ..... .....glad you came round to my way of thinking
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Post by jor on Dec 18, 2005 0:39:06 GMT 1
ive given up with the egotistical one.
Will just twist what anyone says and/or make derogitory comments so dont see the point in argueing.
Obviously thinks women dont know what they hell they are doing...although seems to have a problem with francis too...
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Post by wildrover on Dec 18, 2005 0:44:41 GMT 1
Yep - like I said most owners will know their horses and what 'they can get away with' .....
what an owner cannot predict is the external circumstances that might make that horse deviate from its regular 'known' routine ... even for a very short period of time. Hence, my point, the relative safety of the person is dependant on the persons position at that precise moment in time.
I'm sure all are in agreement that is perfectly clear .......
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Post by wildrover on Dec 18, 2005 0:47:21 GMT 1
Jo R - aint twisting anything ..... I say what I say.
Cant just recall off hand where I said 'Women dont know what the hell they are doing' ... but......
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