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Post by iceberg on Jan 6, 2013 12:47:46 GMT 1
Getting fed up of crocodile horses trying to bite my face whilst Im walking through my very narrow barn  Fed up of having rearing, broncing horses in stables each side of Archie, trying to bite me through the partition, and raining hooves down on said partition ( which is metal, so at least they wont break!) Fed up of stupid woman leaving bales of haylege in doorway of barn, so trying to keep Archie from diving head first into it, whilst dodging crocodile horses on the other side - its like the bloody krypton factor. Fed up of her leaving bloody wheelbarrows in the walkway, so while dodging crocs, haylege and leading a fat hungry cob and having to move ( kick) wheelbarrows out the way - its getting a bit stressful.  Feel a bit better now!  |
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Post by Lulu on Jan 6, 2013 13:05:27 GMT 1
Only another 8-10 weeks till clocks go forward, not long now  look round the corner.. I bet Archie must be a saint for ignoring all these intimidating horses lungeing at him over doorways/rearing up at partitions.. Sounds like the horses are annoyed that Archie is going out before them |
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Post by iceberg on Jan 6, 2013 13:10:19 GMT 1
They are seriously annoyed lulu, they havent set foot out of those stables since middle of december!!!!!!!!! Not even a leg stretch while mucking out - I do feel sorry for them and tactfully asked why no turn out - apparently they hate the winter! Im more inclined to say they hate being stabled atm.
The foals are so flighty now, they bounce off the walls when I walk past to the tap - its getting me down tbh.
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Post by Lulu on Jan 6, 2013 13:16:40 GMT 1
Mhmm, poor horses.. ALL horses should have time out of their stables daily.. We have one on box rest and he goes out daily for a leg stretch (controlled walk in hand or walk ridden). He damaged his annular ligament in his foreleg and has been in since middle of November and he is happy enough. Not looking forward to turning him out in field as thats when he may damage his leg again  But he does go out for in hand grazing, or walks, just not let loose just yet. Thought it was a requirement for all horses to have some turnout time or somewhere to stretch their legs (one of the five freedoms or am I talking rubbish lol) |
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Post by iceberg on Jan 6, 2013 13:22:48 GMT 1
I think you are right, but there is no talking to this owner - if they were ill I could understand it, and it would be for the horses benefit - but our fields are dry, we have all year turnout ( why I came to this yard) and Archies field even being one of the wetter ones, has dried up lovely. So I havent a clue why they are still in.
REally its none of my business what people do, however Im starting to dread going in with fatty, maybe time for a word with YO?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2013 13:32:14 GMT 1
Past the time I would have said!
Even with wet fields we still get turn out, and we can still ride ours out so they do get out every single day.................Yo told one of the other owners off the other day for not getting her horses out............her excuse was 'they don't like rain'..................Yo turned them out for while and they loved it!
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Post by iceberg on Jan 6, 2013 13:39:02 GMT 1
My yo isnt horsey, lovely but not horsey - so they wont turn out /handle horses at all.
Yes that was another reason ' they hate rain' well they were out in it all summer, and now it hasnt rained for over a week, so flimsy excuse imo.
I just feel so sorry for them, they are going nuts - who wouldnt looking at a brick wall 24 hours a day.
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Post by mandal on Jan 6, 2013 13:39:12 GMT 1
Sounds horrendous iceberg! Poor horses caged up like that, no wonder they're aggressive. I suppose moving isn't an option...  What about a yard meeting to raise issues about horses behaviour/welfare and safety such as blocking entrances? Courtesy to other liveries as well of course. |
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Post by iceberg on Jan 6, 2013 13:43:15 GMT 1
Not a bad idea mandel, but without saying too much, its not an option - there would be no talking to the owners end of! The girls have all tactfully tried, but brick wall - we all are cruel for turning out - and as for Archie being unrugged well.............! Roll on spring - that will be fun, rodeo at the yard ...........again. But at least they will be out. |
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Post by mandal on Jan 6, 2013 13:45:44 GMT 1
I'll contribute to a pack of these. ;D www.tribeequus.com/books.htmlps. I realize it probably isn't appropriate as it's hoof care based but thought the title relevant. lol |
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Post by specialized on Jan 6, 2013 15:23:05 GMT 1
I'm sorry but in my opinion keeping any horse and especially foals cooped up in stables all winter is tantamout to cruelty and is a welfare issue, not to mention dangerous for mucking out and then when they finally do get turnout.
I wonder if one of the welfare organisations like WHW is worth speaking to to see if they have any guidelines you could point out to the owners?
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Post by curlytobiano on Jan 6, 2013 15:38:22 GMT 1
No wonder you feel like a rant Iceberg! that's dreadful. Its so upsetting seeing horses suffering and all the more so when it is so unnecessary. My youngster (18 months) had to have a week in the stable as fields were closed due to water but we were taking him for grazing in hand, letting him have a blast in the school and grooming him outside the stable every day. On top of him being stressed, I was really stressed thinking about him being cooped up! (Actually he really didnt seem that bothered but you just know its better for them to be out).
I am afraid I would struggle not to give the owners a piece of my mind, but that is not the most constructive approach! Is there a helpful article on the internet that you could pin up in the feed / tack room?! Well done on keeping your temper and on giving Archie a much better life than those other poor horses. x
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Post by marsay on Jan 6, 2013 15:40:34 GMT 1
Oh I feel for you, to watch other horses who are fit and well sentenced to prison is terrible, I wouldn't care what they said about rugs or not, at least you let yours out!!
Why do people run yards who are not horsey? How can they possibly be caring people, how can they manage the place if they don't know or care about a horses well being.
So glad I don't have to go down that route, keep your chin up you are right they are wrong I would ask the RSPCA or WHW for a visit to talk about horse care, maybe education is the answer!
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Post by mandal on Jan 6, 2013 15:41:23 GMT 1
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Post by cbc on Jan 6, 2013 16:30:49 GMT 1
 Thirded Specialized! No wonder you are fed up Iceberg, good job Archie is sensible too.
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look round the corner.. I bet Archie must be a saint for ignoring all these intimidating horses lungeing at him over doorways/rearing up at partitions.. Sounds like the horses are annoyed that Archie is going out before them 
But he does go out for in hand grazing, or walks, just not let loose just yet.
What about a yard meeting to raise issues about horses behaviour/welfare and safety such as blocking entrances? Courtesy to other liveries as well of course.
