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Post by Mellymoo on Dec 26, 2010 15:01:26 GMT 1
Hi everyone You may have seen my thread about my poor pony getting the bejeezus kicked out of him by an exmoor gelding . I finally got them separate turnout today - had to wade in with a whip to rescue my poor boy. So the nasty little exmoor is out with my YO's exmoor mare that she rides. This mare is the dominant one at our yard, but the nasty little gelding still won't leave her alone - when I left the yard, there was growling, squealing, rearing, biting and kicking going on. The mare beats hell out the gelding, but he will not leave her alone. I don't touch her horses, as she gets uppity if I do, so left them to it. Harsh I know, but if she didn't care about my pony, she won't bother about her own either. So I would like suggestions for getting this pony to be nice to others. It's not even ours, and if it were up to me the damn thing would have been sent back to where it came from weeks ago but she is determined to keep it over winter. Or is this pony destined for a life of individual turnout (it was on its own all summer, but could chat to others over the fence). It did fight over the fence though as well It is 7, and was a stallion until March. Chocolate cake if you got to the end and actually understood all that!
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fjorda
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Post by fjorda on Dec 26, 2010 15:20:32 GMT 1
To be honest I would probably leave him on individual turnout, plenty of horses are kept like that and as long as he can see other horses he will be fine. I am afraid I have first hand experience of the nasty injury's that can be inflicted in the field, your boy was lucky that you rescued him when you did - he could have been badly hurt.
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Post by kafee on Dec 26, 2010 15:47:46 GMT 1
OK, I claim my chocolate cake! No, I haven't got any suggestions, apart from individual turn out, but I'd just like to claim my chocolate cake!
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Post by Mellymoo on Dec 26, 2010 16:05:29 GMT 1
OK, I claim my chocolate cake! No, I haven't got any suggestions, apart from individual turn out, but I'd just like to claim my chocolate cake! *Passes Kafee a massive piece of cake* ;D
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Post by carol on Dec 26, 2010 20:35:51 GMT 1
I wonder what the Exmoor's issue is? What do you reckon? Food? Or...you say he was gelded last March, I doubt it's sex if the gelding was properly done. Do you know his history at all?
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Post by kafee on Dec 26, 2010 20:40:20 GMT 1
OK, I claim my chocolate cake! No, I haven't got any suggestions, apart from individual turn out, but I'd just like to claim my chocolate cake! *Passes Kafee a massive piece of cake* ;D Ummmmmmmmm, yummy! Special no calorie chocolate cake, I could eat that every day! Ta muchly! ;D
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Post by Mellymoo on Dec 26, 2010 20:46:31 GMT 1
I wonder what the Exmoor's issue is? What do you reckon? Food? Or...you say he was gelded last March, I doubt it's sex if the gelding was properly done. Do you know his history at all? Hi Carol, thanks for replying! I know a little about him; he has been used for conservation grazing, and was kept entire until he was inspected and failed. He had a gelding for companionship. He is now surplus to requirements (I wonder why ) and has been with us since June to get broken. He was gelded in March. He is used to human company, and is OK to handle, but is just terrible with other horses (he is equally bad with mares, geldings, youngstock and older ones). He has systematically gone through our herd and damaged everything If it was up to me, the little sod would have been gone long ago! We have tried letting them meet over fences, meeting in the yard with us holding them, leaving them to it, but nothing ever works. If anything he is getting worse. I notice he is worse in a smaller field (under 15 acres ) and also if there is nothing else to do. Never have I thought about shooting something because it has issues, but honestly, if I have to deal with one more injury to my poor boy then I will weild the gun myself MTA - food not a problem - the little sod will leave the hay in the field to go have a fight!
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Post by anastasia55555 on Dec 26, 2010 21:03:36 GMT 1
unless the person who the exmoor belongs to is willing to take some action there is little you can do for him i would think. Personally, just keep Jos out of his way, i should think your boy would even prefer to be on his own by the sounds of things than live with the exmoor! I would think it has got to be something to do with the herd dynamics from where he came from surely? Sounds like he isnt settling too well to this kind of herd arrangement/lifestyle The exmoor we look after/loan, is a thousand worlds apart from the one your describing, our boy is so docile, hes the poor bugger that gets pushed about! Although he does know where his back feet are to tell the others to begger off when they push him too far. Ive had to deal with bullying ponies/horses, and ones that rip the rugs off the backs of them! that really annoys me! The bliss of having our lot on their own together with no one elses to interfere! Just imaging if it was still at livery yard i would be watering and feeding every other buggers horses because they wouldnt bother thinking about it, as all the pipes would be frozen and still thick snow of the ground, and the fighting in the winter was awful, all of them wanting to come in for food, when you go to get your own horse in, not fun
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Post by Mellymoo on Dec 26, 2010 21:26:33 GMT 1
I wondered if that was an exmoor in your sig anastasia! YO has three others, who are all ace. I am the only livery at yard if that makes everything seem more sensible. Jos will be turned out in the school with his pals Percy and Patsy for winter I think - YO was on about putting up an electric fence in big field, but I can't see that working since the ground is solid
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Post by anastasia55555 on Dec 26, 2010 21:42:11 GMT 1
yeh good luck with getting the posts in!
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Post by jaxnbreeze on Dec 27, 2010 14:17:54 GMT 1
For whatever reason he sounds a complete Ratbag and one to avoided as he could be a real danger to other horses and humans if you get in the way. Jax
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Post by Mellymoo on Dec 27, 2010 16:13:36 GMT 1
Went down this morning to muck out, to find my pony turned out with the little sod He wasn't getting beaten up at that point, but I went to rescue him and he was sweaty so obviously had been getting chased and harassed. Cue me storming in to YO's - she is out, but spoke to her mum who is going to give her a roasting when she gets home. So annoyed
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Post by kafee on Dec 27, 2010 21:01:02 GMT 1
WHAT!!! She turned your pony out with the Exmoor again, knowing that he would probably get injured. What sort of a horsewoman is she? I would have thought she'd have got the message by now that the Exmoor is not safe to be turned out with another pony. I'm not surprised you stormed in to see her, I would have done in if it was my pony. I sincerely hope it doesn't happen again. Good luck.
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Post by cookie on Dec 27, 2010 21:35:09 GMT 1
Guys, I'm not sure I like some of the language used to describe this pony. Whatevers happened it's not really his fault. I do know how frustrating it is and have strong feelings about the gelding who kicked my boy and broke his leg, but horses are horses.
It's your yo who is at fault here and who is jepordising your horses safety. If yo can't be trusted then you need to move. For your horses safety. Sorry to be blunt but after the heartbreak we had with my boys injury, the expense and the 12 months off he has had I cannot keep quiet.
Best of luck with it, I do hope you get it resolved.
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Post by emma on Dec 27, 2010 22:15:37 GMT 1
My gelding was a real bully with other horses when I bought him. He was 4 and had just been cut after covering mares. He obviously couldn't go out with the mares and he would beat the geldings up. He was put in with a weanling colt and they actually got on really well then the colt was sold so he was put on his own. I brought him back home and put him in with my miniature pony who gets on with anybody, I made him a little bit of the field that only he could get in so if my naughty gelding got too much he could escape. I still can't turn him out with mares 10 years on but he loves his little pony now and will even share a haynet now. So he got on with the colt that played with him and also the mini who just ignores him but I put an exracer in with him 2 years ago that tried to befriend him but he wasn't having any of it!
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