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Post by jennyb on Nov 21, 2009 14:47:35 GMT 1
Caroline - I have subscribed to that magazine for a long time, and have had cause to contact the editor several times. She always responds very promptly and very politely. As I said, I'm sure this can, and is, being resolved very amicably.
I must admit, I didn't see the bit in your previous post where you said to contact them nicely - I was so taken aback by the legal threats which followed! Fine if you need to use that level of response with a company, but I'd be really surprised if this issue gets to that stage.
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Post by heather on Nov 21, 2009 15:13:00 GMT 1
I think you must have missed my post, Caroline, saying I was dealing with it.
Nadja King is one of the good guys of the equestrian world, absolutely for the horse in every way. That magazine has done more to educate riders than any other I can think of, in all aspects of humane Classical training and has been a lone voice, along with the brave Teresa Sandin of Sustainable Dressage website, in campaigning long and hard, for the FEI to recognise the dangers of rollkur/hyperflexion. She has many times, risked lawsuits from those who do use it, and who have already successfully sued and prevented Teresa and the German St Georg magazine, who dared to raise their heads above the parapet and decry rollkur publicly.
So rest assured, HFL had no idea that the author was slagging off an actual organisation!!
Heather
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Post by 2 bays & a grey:D on Nov 21, 2009 16:55:11 GMT 1
yep- disgusting. If only they would allow bitless bridles!!
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Post by heather on Nov 21, 2009 17:35:38 GMT 1
They are to be allowed in the USA dressage arena soon, nantesse, and Dr Bob Cook wrote to me to ask if I would support him in his fight to get bitless accepted in BD classes. I tested his early prototypes. My Arab stallion loved it, but I have had other horses that hated it! The bit is NOT an evil tool in good hands, and I truly believe that bitless, in the wrong hands, can create excessive pressure on the nose, whether a side pull or whatever. Even Klaus Ferdinand Hempfling in his teleseminar last Sunday said that although he can ride some horses without a bridle, some do need a bit, but this should never be used with force, just like any other aid.
Heather
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Post by Emma R on Nov 21, 2009 22:47:35 GMT 1
I've pm'd Admin Emma... I can't access the article but thought they should be aware... Good thinking Mandal, I was so sure I must have read it wrong that I nearly didn't post at all! Glad it is now being looked into though! If there are people out there who associate IH and Rollkur then at least it has now been brought to light so that an official statement can be made and any confusion cleared up. Thanks for the update Heather, hopefully there will also be something in the magazine to point out that IH does not support Rollkur. HFL is a great resource and the rest of what I read on the preview was very good, they do a brilliant job of campaigning against practices such as Rollkur. That's sick on so many levels. I have nothing but respect for Monty and it was a joy to watch him work with Copy on the recent tour, they both seemed to be having a blast!
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Post by portiabuzz on Nov 22, 2009 2:39:41 GMT 1
bit confused as read through most of it and apart from certain bits (IH mentions etc) the tone was anti rollkur? Have i read this wrongly? Thanks!!
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Post by heather on Nov 22, 2009 13:54:09 GMT 1
It was purely the anti IH comments that were brought up, portiabuzz. No magazine has done more to try to outlaw rollkur than HFL. It is the best online magazine there is!
Kelly has had an apology so all is sorted!
Heather
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Post by portiabuzz on Nov 22, 2009 14:05:27 GMT 1
Thanks Heather, glad its sorted!
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Post by mandal on Nov 22, 2009 17:20:25 GMT 1
Article from Epona about Kittel and Scandic at other events. Oh the direct link doesn't seem to work... click on Kittel known to Stewards on this link. epona.tv/uk/news/?no_cache=1
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Post by mandal on Nov 25, 2009 12:30:16 GMT 1
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Post by mandal on Nov 27, 2009 0:20:38 GMT 1
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Post by tamzin on Nov 28, 2009 11:32:32 GMT 1
the people on this thread that have asked why not allow bitless bridles if some riders can get results with them? In fact I would be a dam more impressed with a rider getting decent results without using those horrible double bridles. When I was in america a girl was using nothing on her horses head and she was doing flying changes just by instructions. A lot of horse associations need to get with the times and change their rules including the BSJA who allow everything and anything in a horses mouth. and I am afraid it is part of the subject and part of the problem that riders dont understand how bits work.
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Post by mandal on Nov 28, 2009 11:51:15 GMT 1
and I am afraid it is part of the subject and part of the problem that riders dont understand how bits work. I agree with that... many riders use them purely for control not communication which an experienced rider with solid seat will aspire to. For me there is a case for NO bits certainly for beginners, balance,seat, aids and communication have to be improved then!!!
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Post by Kelly Marks on Nov 28, 2009 21:18:24 GMT 1
Back to 'anti IH' piece - that was a mistake in writing and they have sent me nice email apologising. I'm very pleased that with any luck Monty will be having a meeting with Gerd Heushman in Germany on Monday - see how it goes but I hope working together they could be an even greater force for improving things for horses. Kelly
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2009 22:12:26 GMT 1
but the piece doesn't appear to have changed, nor is there anything I could see that says that IH should not be implicated in this, or a public apology for the mistake (or am I missing it?) on the same page as the article. I would have thought that would have been the first thing to do. As it stands, it still looks to the outsider as if IH is pro-rollkur.
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