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Post by gixer on Jun 4, 2009 14:42:45 GMT 1
Oh feeling like we've lept back 4 weeks, and incresingly feeling like thi after every trim must resist urge to just whop shoes back on! Susan, She's galloping round the field like a twit regardless, its a hobby of hers (winding up the boys either side of her lol) and she's been doing it all week before and after trim. for a horse with sore front feet she can certainly cavort about quite happily and without hint of soreness, the soreness only presented ridden thats £20 down the pan, we're booked into a dressage comp this sunday, thats how well we had been doing!!!! and an extra for me
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Post by gillmcg on Jun 4, 2009 15:59:06 GMT 1
Patience Gixer!!!! ;D It'll come. If she were poorly in any other way you wouldn't hesitate to get her well before work I'm sure. Her feet are 'sick' and need time to heal too. Maybe the £20 entry should have gone towards boots? Hope the Old Macs that Laura's kindly sending you will fit....
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Post by gixer on Jun 4, 2009 16:04:30 GMT 1
Gill when I entered she was sound on everything bar the sharp hardcore at our yard , and even then she was ooochy accross the sharp stuff and fine once out the other side I stupidly thought that were were close to being on good feet but alas..... Patience? whats that then
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Post by geeup on Jun 4, 2009 16:17:55 GMT 1
sending you ciber good luck vibes.
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Post by wendyihts on Jun 4, 2009 18:05:39 GMT 1
Back on to what?
If the soreness is only present when ridden, it means she's on the road to healing though it's still going to take time. I remember with Lutine, first she was unsound all the time on all surfaces, then only sometimes, depending on surface, then only when riding down hill then not at all.
Even if you have to sell a kidney, you need to get some proper hoof boots and pads or the best you're going to get is a re-shod horse that you'll get a couple more years of riding out of maximum. And just accept that at the moment your horse has got sick feet that need to heal before you can get on with riding again.
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Post by beany1 on Jun 4, 2009 18:10:41 GMT 1
This thread is great but I do think that your trimmer would appreciate a little honesty if you aren't happy with something, rather than it being aired on this forum Just a thought
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Post by gixer on Jun 4, 2009 19:43:16 GMT 1
fair comment Beany I will talk with her RE handling etc
Don't worry I wont actually go back to shoes, I KNOW thats not going to help her at all, I do quite honestly have moments I wish I'd never taken them off but again I KNOW that would not have done her any good either.
I'll tough it out, see how we get on with the old Old Macs (Thank you again!!!!) and then save some pennies for new ones. I had been told previously though that getting boots for her was pretty pointless as her feet will be changing shape soo much.
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Post by arabmania on Jun 4, 2009 20:06:53 GMT 1
i do hope you hang on in there! it can and does get disheartening sometimes but like everything knowledge is power........ charisse (one of my mares) was footy after her last trim. well the day after actually because we had been out for a good hack straight after her trim. she had previously been doing very well and her feet are changing so much with exfolliation and concavity starting to look good! My EP came straight back out and brought me some reading material written by KC Pierre about the '3 soles'.... the false sole, the exfolliating sole and the sole. very interesting reading and opened my mind up to what i was now dealing with. KC Pierre says how at this stage of the conditioning it is not a step back BUT more a phase two of a much healthier foot that now needs the sole (which has previously been protected by a false sole) to thicken, hence footiness apparant. I felt so much better with this knowledge and fantastic that charisses' feet are beginning to become what they should be. Please don't despair but do keep up with the sole mates and walking inhand over different terrains..... you will get there!!!! can you keep the riding to the menage and get the sand working your horses feet?
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Post by Yann on Jun 4, 2009 20:40:40 GMT 1
If your horse is similar to one of mine, and it certainly looks and sounds like that, then you may well find things improve a lot as you get into late autumn and winter. It is genuinely difficult to know what to do for the best, especially when they're struggling and that's why everyone is banging on so much about boots. With them on, and maybe some pads too, you'll have your old horse back and at a mimimum schooling and dressage should hopefully be back on the agenda.
Soreness after a trim is unfortunately par for the course, that was certainly my experience early on and it can indeed be very disheartening. There is an awful lot to be gained by persevering, even if you only end up with a horse that is mostly sound in hand over the stones and needs to be hacked out in boots. It's entirely possible that that is the limit of what you can expect, but hopefully more is possible. Being realistic the limitations of the average livery yard setup can make this difficult.
You could put shoes back on, even temporarily and your horse would be sound and comfortable in them, but the problem is that it does a lot of damage when they go splat, especially if the farrier isn't at the top of his game, which does look to have been the case. My guess is that it really is a case of making the best of a bad job rather than expecting barefoot nirvana(though I hope I'm proved wrong of course), which is why boots are the biggest weapon in your arsenal.
What size G2's does your horse take?
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Post by naturegirl on Jun 4, 2009 20:58:24 GMT 1
I am not very well up on barefoot etc. but I have to question why you are doing this? The feet looked SO much better with shoes on. Is this for your benefit or your horse?
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Post by mandal on Jun 4, 2009 21:13:49 GMT 1
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Post by gixer on Jun 4, 2009 21:24:30 GMT 1
naturegirl its easier to see the issue if you put the side and front of views of her fores next to each other but the best description is that one hoof is like a stilletto heel and the other like a slipper. try walking with one high heel on and you'll soon see why I'm on this road. She'll probably never have totally even feet but hopefully we can make an improvement.
Arabmania, we only work in our sand school and cool down with a meander around the paddock (sandy soiled)
will persevere, we WILL get there thank you everyone for your advice and support so much to take in and on!
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Post by naturegirl on Jun 4, 2009 21:26:25 GMT 1
Thanks for this Mandal. Some interesting reading
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Post by arabmania on Jun 4, 2009 23:05:48 GMT 1
I am not very well up on barefoot etc. but I have to question why you are doing this? The feet looked SO much better with shoes on. Is this for your benefit or your horse? i don't see where you are coming with this comment? the feet are not healthy and shoes masked this! please elaborate to the looking healthy with shoes on. the last time i looked we usually do things for the good of the horse........... we could all go through our neddies life pretending that iron on feet, albeit nails through too, is good!!! but hey! everyone to there own
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Post by mandal on Jun 4, 2009 23:14:57 GMT 1
will persevere, we WILL get there Of course you will! ;D I think naturegirl is not familiar with the reasoning behind removing shoes Arabmania and like most of us at one time looks at shod horses and sees neat and tidy, looks at some barefoot pics and sees cracking chipping etc. You can't see that so easily in shoes... remember when you looked at horses feet before you had learned different things.
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