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Post by emy on Dec 20, 2008 22:10:44 GMT 1
You may recall a thread I put up 5 days ago about my new fab purchase.I bought a beautiful dun gelding 8 yo because I fell in love.Well that affair is OVER!! I cant get on him.I managed to get on him-with someone holding him and them whoosh,he surged off and I stopped him.He then stood and trembled for a minute or so and I asked him to walk around in the yard to settle him which he did,then I took him out.He seemed ok,very nervy and trembly with lots of adrenaline surges coming up through the saddle,but ok in traffic and seemed to have good breaks.I was ok with this-until today..He was the same to mount but he didnt settle as well afterwards.My friend was with me leading my pony who is unbroken as we were taking them to a new field.A few munutes into the ride she asked me if I had my car keys so I put my hand in my pocket and a physical quiver came through just at that!I didnt have them so we turned around and he was in such a state I got off.As I swung my leg over he jumped backwards in fear and I got off ok (only that good old ripped cuticle thing).I got my keys and I walked him halfway to the new field and he is quiet as a mouse leading.Great in traffic too.As soon as I gathered the reins to mount up he went backwards and up!Ah we said.We will find a safer place to try again(large hill downwards coming up).As my adrenaline was now up I asked my friend to mount him and I covered his eye and he stood quiet but as soon as he saw her leg coming over the other side of him he paniced,blindly running fowards,straight through a hedge .He brought down his back end and in getting up my friend came off the back,cutting her back to shreads on the hedge in the process !! We led him after that but a few times I just gathered the reins and he would start to run back in anticipation of being mounted!!Poor boy,I would love to know his story. I dont have the time,facillaties or energy to sort him out.I bought him so I could have a lovely consistent horse to ride as my others are youngsters that I break in.I have spoken to the guy I bought him off who said he knew nothing of this but he wasnt a novice ride.I said that I can do but it helps if you can get on them!! Now what do I do,he said he could swap him which I may well do,but I think he has been a driving horse who is used to blinkers and not being ridden.AAARRRGGGHHH
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Post by varkie on Dec 20, 2008 22:27:01 GMT 1
Am I right in thinking you've only had him a week? I know you mentioned getting the EDT out as you had concerns over his teeth - has he been?
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Post by laura on Dec 20, 2008 22:27:10 GMT 1
ok at the risk of being shot down in tatters for being unsympathetic .................. i am usually the master ( well mistress of tact and diplomacy did you not check this before you bought him ? ( I cant remember the origional thread) did you do any groundwork before you got on to ride him ?. if you need ANY advice as to how to safely judge whether a horse is safe to mount you just need to look at monty / kellys work with "heidi" ... rather than put horse and human at risk and under pressure with a human whos adrenaline is up and feels that after only five days you HAVE to get on and ride ! sorry but if you wanted a consitant horse why oh why did you get one that the guy said was not a novice ride ... surely that would have set off alarm bells? ?? I will now go see if I can find the other thread and MAY alter my intial response to the post
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Post by anniearab on Dec 20, 2008 22:28:53 GMT 1
If he came from a dealer you can ask for a refund under the sale of goods act, I see you are in Devon, didn't come from near Loddiswell by any chance?
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Post by laura on Dec 20, 2008 22:35:27 GMT 1
I have been to look back on that thread and I did make comment on it ..... one thing was suggesting that a little long lining etc be doneyou said there he had a smelly mouth .... has that been checked on because if he has indeed mouth problems that might begin to give at least one reason for him not to want anyone riding him Alao has he had his back etc checked ...... it may sound as if I am asking basic idiotic questions since you say you have other youngsters etc but as he was bought at auction (thought that was on other thread will go back and check ) he may have numerous issues that need exploring before he is passed on yet again.
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Post by pinklady63 on Dec 20, 2008 22:50:18 GMT 1
Poor poor pony must be in alot of pain and very confused,would make me love him more I think not less...
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Post by arabmania on Dec 20, 2008 22:54:40 GMT 1
I must admit that the first thing that has sprung to my mind is back problems., together with maybe some cruelty from past owner/rider instead of having him properly checked over.
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Post by eden on Dec 20, 2008 23:01:08 GMT 1
poor chap have to say hwe sounds like he is in pain, or ill treatment. No horse is just get on and get on with it! He has not been with you long. Sorry if harsh but no horse is stright forward. I hope you sort it out.
Kate
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Post by rifruffian on Dec 20, 2008 23:08:13 GMT 1
Horsehandler must have time, patience, energy, imagination to devote to the horse, when faced with difficulties; obtain outside assistance if you lack detailed knowledge.
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Post by emy on Dec 20, 2008 23:14:09 GMT 1
yep,I bought him spontaniously at an auction.I was told he had done 2 years work at a riding school which led me to believe he was used to being riden-funny that.I didnt test ride him as he was quite and sound-physicaly.I have booked the e.d.t who is due to come out on 31.12.As for only riding after 5 days,I would expect to ride an apparently quiet horse after 5 days.He has been in,not whinnied once,eating well and lying down at night,no door kicking.He seemed to have no issues so I took him out and wanted to ride him to his new field.I also have 2 small children which puts a certain fear of mortality into things.I checked over his back and he seemed to show no pain,but I know a good back lady who is coming out. I think he has pain issues and I didnt want to buy a horse with issues.This may seem selfish but I have enough issues in my life.I am feeling a bit of pressure here in some replys-passed on yet again,love him more I think not less...,feel that after 5 days I HAVE to get on and ride him and didnt alarm bells ring at not a novice ride. These are all unconstructive comments and quite useless.About my thoughts on him driving-this is my personal theory that I put to the guy tonite when I called,theory that after being around him for a bit I have peiced together,also it was only tonight he told me he was not a novice ride so no alarm bells when I bought him because I was not told!!!All they said is that he was a compact ride but fine with no problems at the time when I picked him up. Wow,now that I have finished defending myself can anyone give me some advice as how to deal with a horse that I think has a pain issue?(obvoiusly wont try riding again til e.d.t and back ladys been)
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Post by l17 on Dec 20, 2008 23:21:27 GMT 1
I rode my pony after having him for five days. I don't think that is the issue. It really depends on the horse and how it reacts to its surroundings. If this horse is good on the ground and in traffic then it sounds like doing lots of groundwork would improve the relationship and set boundaries whilst you wait for all the checks to be done. Hope that things improve for you. Lx
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Post by rifruffian on Dec 20, 2008 23:27:18 GMT 1
Initial suggestion: apply a whole body massage to your horse every day or two. The pair of you will become familiar and it may give pointers to detail of any pain. If you do not yet know massage routine, it is available in books, e-books etc.
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Post by arabmania on Dec 20, 2008 23:30:56 GMT 1
Hi. To be honest , a bit of careful manilpulation in lots of isolated areas wouldn't do any harm, whilst watching carefully for any reaction. This may help you to localise a particular area. I do hope you get it sorted. He sounds absolutely brilliant groundwise and this could be the same ridden wise once you know what is happening which makes him want to run from having to carry weight. would love to know the outcome
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Post by pinklady63 on Dec 20, 2008 23:33:22 GMT 1
Sorry if you thought my earlier reply was harsh but so was your post"the love affair is over"or words to that affect,your new pony doesn't understand why you like him then you don't just because he is hurting! How about you give him some time,see what the specialists say,he clearly doesn't have a nasty bone in his body as he has tried his best to please but has had to refuse being ridden due to pain issues but has done it in a safe and sane way..please give this handsome boy a chance
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Post by ladynowak on Dec 20, 2008 23:44:12 GMT 1
I don't think there is any need to get so defensive, but surely you can see that people are only concerned. I can see where you are coming from, but if you didn't want a horse with issues, why buy untried and unvetted horse from the sales? He may have been a riding school horse for x years and been suitable for novices. But remember, horses like that are snapped up so quickly privately and only tend to end up at the sales if there is a problem/they are buted up. Get the vet up to 'vet' him, back person, EDT and saddler if everything else comes back clear. Bit of a nightmare just before Christmas but these things happen. I hope he has just pulled something when out in the field and it is nothing too serious.
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