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Post by portiabuzz on Apr 9, 2014 21:10:07 GMT 1
Never seen those before Bertie
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Post by brynsleigh on Apr 9, 2014 21:28:33 GMT 1
Troop Epona shoes are flexible plastic shoes shaped like a heartbar so they support the frog and dont have the concussion or rigidity factor of metal shoes I am using on my insulin resistant mare at the moment but hopefully one day we will go barefoot again .
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Post by pip on Apr 9, 2014 22:10:13 GMT 1
Epona shoes crippled my horse. Were put on one day and I had to call the farrier to come and remove them the next day. Good for him, he came even though he was on his way to a competition for farriers. So that was an expensive experiment. I just threw them away.
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Post by jen1 on Apr 10, 2014 3:50:36 GMT 1
O, I feel your pain Michelle, been there measured it , I can5 find boots that are even close, I just ended up just doing the whole pain staking conditioning , and schooled in the mean time
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Post by lisap on Apr 10, 2014 8:29:57 GMT 1
Oh, Yes!!!! After spending £240.00 on Easyboot gloves, pads and whatever, Tuli wore the back ones three times - each time shedding them every time he went into canter. The front ones were a bit better, but not much. My friend spent a fortune on hoofwings for her horse - and exactly the same thing happened. Boots are the DEVIL. Anyway, as Tuli was getting increasingly footsore after a year and a half of barefoot, and not better, despite the best of attention, he is now back in shoes and we have a much happier horse that we can actually hack out without the whole stupid palaver of boots. So my Easyboot gloves will be getting a good washing and going up on Ebay!
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Post by taklishim on Apr 10, 2014 17:34:54 GMT 1
I *HATE* hoof boots. I hate, hate, hate them! I am SO frustrated trying to get Talin booted so I can actually ride him. He needs work to improve his feet but I can't work him until he's comfortable and he's not comfortable unbooted. I've got old macs which are too bulky and make him fling his legs around weirdly and rub his pasterns. I measured him and bought renegades which fitted when I tried the shells and don't fit now I own them, they're far too narrow and I can't even get the heel captivator over his heels. I've been recommended fusions by a couple of people, been told they're ever so easy to put on and told what size I need... hooray a friend even has some in his size to let me try... they make him over reach, trip and brush so he does the old macs style leg flinging (when not landing on his face). I just want a boot that flipping well fits - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!! And don't anyone suggest gloves to me or my brain might explode. I hired a fit kit, followed Easyboot's advice and not a single one of the shells fitted because their size chart is so far off (which I then read on a forum after wasting my money) and was then told his feet are far too upright so they'll never work for him. Now I'm not being funny, but his feet are actually hoof shaped, not square or spherical, no club feet, he's not a miniature shetland and he's not an oversized shire so why is this so ridiculously hard?! Rant over, feel free to join in! my feet are also hoof shaped. They fit quite happily into renegades, gloves or epics. Whichever I happen to choose really so I am not going to join the rant. Boots are not for everyone but are hardly a palaver to put on if you need to support a barefoot horse. If the renegade shell fitted there must be a reason why the actual boot shell doesn't. They don't particuarly stretch, you cannot heat treat them (they are not a glove). What does the supplier say? As for the captivator not going over the heels then this often happens with new renegades. You resolve it by adjusting the boots until they fit. After the initial fitting adjustment you don't usually have to adjust them again. I do remember your posting pics of your glove fit kit and commenting on them.
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Post by twiglet on Apr 10, 2014 20:21:39 GMT 1
I have come across this link on "A matter of horse" forum, under "Feet" section with a picture. www.bootsforhorses.comApologies if they have already been mentioned elsewhere on the thread. I have two retired horses so knowledge of hoof boots is practically zero. Just thought they looked different??
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Post by nightowl4 on Apr 10, 2014 23:57:04 GMT 1
I've been successful with Old Macs, which were, happily, the first and only ones I've tried. They really don't look pretty (especially on a tb) but they do the job. I spent a long time getting the boys used to them eg first just putting them on while tied up and then taking them off 5 minutes later, to slowly gradually building up the time they spent in them, to eventually turning boys out in them for an afternoon. I think this helped them get used to the boots on their feet and also prevented them from getting rubs. Good luck!
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Post by jen1 on Apr 11, 2014 0:18:18 GMT 1
MTA, look up horse mocs , there bespoke , hand made in the us, off your measurements
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Post by portiabuzz on Apr 11, 2014 10:13:21 GMT 1
I've been successful with Old Macs, which were, happily, the first and only ones I've tried. They really don't look pretty (especially on a tb) but they do the job. I spent a long time getting the boys used to them eg first just putting them on while tied up and then taking them off 5 minutes later, to slowly gradually building up the time they spent in them, to eventually turning boys out in them for an afternoon. I think this helped them get used to the boots on their feet and also prevented them from getting rubs. Good luck! i agree with this , they look clumpy but never had an issue with the old macs suppose we are lucky!
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Post by nich on Apr 11, 2014 14:03:49 GMT 1
same here! Iolo and Autumn were fine for years in Cavallos (barring a few rubs on Auty when not acclimatised) but they would be way too bulky for Brio. I tried Hoofwings on Auty - v expensive mistake. despite being custom made, they twisted, and the fittings came off. Long involved debate were they blamed my trimmer, who was brilliant at responding to them. Oh and the tread is rubbish on them too.
So Brio has had: Gloves - ok except in very fast work (came off and hung round her fetlocks) and very slippy ground (tread not great). Tried standard and wide fits - and have come to the conclusion that the 'fault' is in Brio's upright feet. No amount of hammering can change the fact that the fit is for a more sloping foot.
Easy Backcountries - good, stay on, easy to put on, and despite being a little bulky we can cope. BUT they don't do them small enough for her hinds grr. Front feet sorted.
Fusions - not enough tread, a bit flimsy and didnt last very long. also twisted a little.
Old Mac G2's. my latest effort. ok one one hind but not the other which twisted. I am hoping that after seeing an amazing vet/chiro, this may improve and I'll try again.
The annoying thing is, for much of the time she would be fine completely bare, she has lovely tight feet which don't flare or chip but she wears her back heels down, so I do need a boot for them for at least some rides.
If only someone would offer a mobile boot fitting service I would pay good money, as each time I buy and resell on ebay I lose ££s
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 15:04:47 GMT 1
I've had my old macs for years so Talin definitely doesn't need more time to get used to them. I think he's just got a very close movement which means if I add any bulk he brushes, and he doesn't like brushing so he swings his legs out to the sides to try to stop it. He does it in hand at walk, it just becomes more obvious when ridden or going faster and I don't think it's good for the rest of his body to be used incorrectly like that.
I've got my trimmer coming tonight to review the renegades with me, we've reviewed them against her renegade shells she uses for fittings and mine are actually wider at the heel so should fit better.
Re all these maquis/ swiss boots/ hoofwings etc, since Talin apparently doesn't fit boots that should fit him, and since his feet will change shape as old flare grows out I'm just not prepared to spend £100's on boots I can't try on first.
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Post by Louise C on Apr 11, 2014 23:23:37 GMT 1
I started out with Old Macs and found them pretty clumpy, Flynn dishes with one leg and it was more apparent with them, but we found Renegades perfect so hope tou've managed to get sorted.xx
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2014 7:52:10 GMT 1
Well! My trimmer came out, looked at his feet and said I've not been maintaining as tight a roll as I was supposed to be (he needed the roll regardless, not to fit the boots). We re-rolled his feet and led him out on the road and he's landing heel first and has got his stupidly mahoosive walk back - he certainly doesn't need boots to start in hand walking so I'll see how we go, I'm quite happy to get him up to a couple of miles a day in hand before riding so if we can do without boots all the better!
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Post by bertie666 on Apr 12, 2014 8:23:01 GMT 1
The other thing you could do when your ground is dry Michelle is using those emergency turnout velcro on boots from EPS with pads in in the field for the day/night then if they come off u just pick them up whilst poo picking
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