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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2014 13:35:21 GMT 1
I *HATE* hoof boots. I hate, hate, hate them! I am SO frustrated trying to get Talin booted so I can actually ride him. He needs work to improve his feet but I can't work him until he's comfortable and he's not comfortable unbooted.
I've got old macs which are too bulky and make him fling his legs around weirdly and rub his pasterns. I measured him and bought renegades which fitted when I tried the shells and don't fit now I own them, they're far too narrow and I can't even get the heel captivator over his heels. I've been recommended fusions by a couple of people, been told they're ever so easy to put on and told what size I need... hooray a friend even has some in his size to let me try... they make him over reach, trip and brush so he does the old macs style leg flinging (when not landing on his face).
I just want a boot that flipping well fits - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!!
And don't anyone suggest gloves to me or my brain might explode. I hired a fit kit, followed Easyboot's advice and not a single one of the shells fitted because their size chart is so far off (which I then read on a forum after wasting my money) and was then told his feet are far too upright so they'll never work for him.
Now I'm not being funny, but his feet are actually hoof shaped, not square or spherical, no club feet, he's not a miniature shetland and he's not an oversized shire so why is this so ridiculously hard?!
Rant over, feel free to join in!
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Post by troop on Apr 9, 2014 13:46:09 GMT 1
errr yeah! The only ones i find i can cope with are the Simple Cavallos :/ but i still hate them. I hate all the fitting kits they drive me mad..... MAD i tell you
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Post by antares on Apr 9, 2014 13:49:58 GMT 1
The cavallos fit antares ok but they are so bulky we have the hoof flinging thing going on!! Can't be good for their muscles if the gait is needing to be exaggerated so much.
We have the trimmer coming out at the weekend, then I will measure his feet and see if I can get some new boots ordered as we are now hacking out again
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Post by specialized on Apr 9, 2014 14:03:52 GMT 1
Never got any boots to work - gave up and got a good farrier (barefoot) instead.
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Post by brynsleigh on Apr 9, 2014 14:26:27 GMT 1
Ive just bought some swiss hoof boots they are not bulky and my older mare has epona shoes fitted the same as normal shoes nailed on with no glue they work well and her feet look good when they are taken off with thicker hoof wall, shes 16 now barefoot all her life but now needs something . I used swiss hoof boots on her years ago and they worked well .
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Post by amandap on Apr 9, 2014 14:36:29 GMT 1
I measured him and bought renegades which fitted when I tried the shells and don't fit now I own them, they're far too narrow and I can't even get the heel captivator over his heels. I've been recommended fusions by a couple of people, been told they're ever so easy to put on and told what size I need... hooray a friend even has some in his size to let me try... they make him over reach, trip and brush so he does the old macs style leg flinging (when not landing on his face). I just want a boot that flipping well fits - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!! I can see why you're frustrated! It seems a nightmare without hands on professional help for some/many from what I read and finding a professional who is experienced with boots seems hard as well! Poor you! Can you heat gun/rubber mallet the Renegades, assuming you can't return them? Mind you, then you couldn't sell them! Just a thought as I have no experience of any except Epics. Sounds like the shells have stretched...  I think companies should offer a hands on fitting service. I wish I could help! ps. I didn't dare mention Swiss boots as most UK barefooters (on forums) don't seem to like/use them. You'll soon have the whole collection!  Sorry, couldn't resist! |
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Post by ruthp on Apr 9, 2014 14:42:50 GMT 1
Oh Michelle, I share your frustration. I have managed to get Bali boot free during the winter, but in summer need to boot her if we're going anywhere with stony tracks. And I've tried plenty of different boots at huge expense too. Easyboot Epics I can just about cope with now. They aren't too difficult to put on, are reasonably forgiving of hoof growth, and if put on properly do seem to stay put. But, both of Bali's falling over on the road accidents were wearing boots, so I'm very wary.
I hope you find something that works ok for you and Talin soon.
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Post by troop on Apr 9, 2014 14:46:19 GMT 1
My Dets has such a weird action it looks no weirder so if indeed she is flinging her feet i would not notice ..... |
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Post by pip on Apr 9, 2014 14:50:17 GMT 1
I share your pain. Having found that the standard Epics are like skiis in the mud - and I could see all the slip marks from my downward journey on the way back, I bought some Trails - but I don't like them so far. The look so big and clumsy and I haven't enough strength to put them on firmly. I am worried that my horse will trip over his feet in those.
The old Epics, with the clips and wires have never come off and fit neatly below the hairline, but the tread is bad in mud. Good for road work though.
What are the Swiss boots?
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Post by portiabuzz on Apr 9, 2014 14:52:13 GMT 1
sorry to hear of this michelle  boots can be such a pain, although the old macs i have are great, no issues |
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Post by troop on Apr 9, 2014 14:52:13 GMT 1
There are some jogging fusion boots that look intriguing
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Post by amandap on Apr 9, 2014 14:56:13 GMT 1
I share your pain. Having found that the standard Epics are like skiis in the mud - and I could see all the slip marks from my downward journey on the way back, I bought some Trails - but I don't like them so far. The look so big and clumsy and I haven't enough strength to put them on firmly. I am worried that my horse will trip over his feet in those. The old Epics, with the clips and wires have never come off and fit neatly below the hairline, but the tread is bad in mud. Good for road work though. What are the Swiss boots? Have you tried using a rubber mallet to tap the toe of the Trails to seat them well into the toe? www.swisshorseboots.co.uk/ ps. Just been through that site and watched the vids! Not very inspiring, I'd seen Jaime Jackson fit them on video years ago previously. Better info www.swisshorseboots.com/downloads/SHB_booklet_english.pdf |
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Post by brynsleigh on Apr 9, 2014 20:18:47 GMT 1
Ive been lucky with the swiss boots as the lady came to my yard and fitted them .sometimes with a good fit they dont need any heating or adjustment and thats only done once on the first fit if its needed. Ive also tried cavallos and old macs both of which are good for rehab and hacking out mostly at walk with some trot .The epona shoes are a good alternative and your own farrier should be able to put them on and they use thinner nails than normal shoes.Its an expensive nightmare at times trying to get it right.
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Post by troop on Apr 9, 2014 20:35:18 GMT 1
What are epona shoes?
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Post by bertie666 on Apr 9, 2014 21:03:45 GMT 1
Have you looked at hoof wings Michelle? A friend ended up with these as her horses feet were really weird to fit boots to. The trails made whin hop and leg fling, i got a pair of glove shells and use mueler tape to make them stick on = just can't get them off ....... hoofwings.co.uk |
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I think companies should offer a hands on fitting service.
Sorry, couldn't resist!
boots can be such a pain, although the old macs i have are great, no issues 
