Trouble
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Post by Trouble on Dec 31, 2009 17:13:15 GMT 1
Do your worst people! Ok, so my camera is now an ageing snapshot digital, so not the best quality. Also, having made a point that Snip was Mr Chill just lately, today he was Mr @rse....did not want to cooperate, seemed grumpy and anxious and stroppy and a bit of a sh!t generally. I cleaned his feet THREE times to be photographed, it was necessary to do it 3 times because he broke his tie string twice and legged it round the yard, twice, through the muddiest bits he could find. God knows what had got into him today. Anyhoo. Here are his feet: Front left: Back left: Back Right: Front Right: Both fronts: And here are the video clips of him moving. www.youtube.com/user/JB100d#p/a/u/0/W56rF20-dQYwww.youtube.com/user/JB100d#p/a/u/1/aZTPDgCvaJwP.S....whilst doing this post my frind has called to say she's just leaving the yard and Snip is mega stressed, he's box walking and bucking/rearing in his stable. Which is exactly how he was when the ulcers took over before.
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Post by jill on Dec 31, 2009 17:23:09 GMT 1
I do feel for you - I know usually there are three steps forward and two steps back but this is something else. If only you could find the underlying cause - with dog problems I advise people to keep a diary, detailing everything, weather, food, people around, other animals, somethimes a common factor leaps out at you. I can't help feeling poor Snip has some kind of deficiency - minerals or something, - which makes his digestive system so prone to those ulcers, there has to be a reason why they keep coming back. But finding it is the challenge. Sorry Trouble, can't help with the feet, they look fine to me.
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Post by Trouble on Dec 31, 2009 17:43:38 GMT 1
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Post by jill on Dec 31, 2009 18:24:49 GMT 1
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Post by Trouble on Dec 31, 2009 18:28:31 GMT 1
Yeah they're the company who make the Gastrogard.
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Post by jennyb on Dec 31, 2009 18:35:27 GMT 1
Is it me, or are his heels collapsed on the front feet? My hoof bible (No Foot, No Horse) says you should run your fingers down either side of the widest part of the cannon bone, then when it disappears into the fetlock, run an imaginary plumb line down vertically to the floor - the back of the heel should touch this line. Snip's seem to be quite a way in front. Backs look good though.
I agree that there must be something more to it. I don't know how you go about finding it though, I do feel for you as you're trying really hard for Snip.
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Post by jill on Dec 31, 2009 18:35:28 GMT 1
Ah, so prevention wouldn't be that high on their agenda then.
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Post by jennyb on Dec 31, 2009 18:36:51 GMT 1
Also hoof/pastern axis on back left looks broken back. Walls of fronts are quite boxy and upright.
Sorry, still looking, lol!
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Post by Louise C on Dec 31, 2009 18:39:47 GMT 1
His feet look fine to me too and good movement going on most of the time as well. I'm lost on the ulcers as well - I do feel for you. Could you move him to 24hr turnout somehow with a herd of horses to chill with? I know he doesn't seem stressed indoors when he first comes in - but every ache and pain always seems so much worse in the winter!
Not much help - sorry Trouble.
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Post by Trouble on Dec 31, 2009 18:40:00 GMT 1
That might be the way he was standing, he was d!cking about like a good'un this afternoon and I pretty much had to get him in a headlock (not quite meaning that literally but not far off!) to get any pics at all, he was leaning backwards and trying to break his tie string for most of the time so that might causing it to look like that?
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Post by Trouble on Dec 31, 2009 18:43:03 GMT 1
Nah we tried 24/7 here, my friend was happy to try it with me but he was the first to hate it...it stressed him more to be out than to be in. He loves it in summer, even slinging down rain in summer, but as soon as the temp drops below a certain degree, he's there at the gate demanding to be tucked in with a haynet for the night!
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Post by jennyb on Dec 31, 2009 18:43:09 GMT 1
Just watched the trot vid. Look carefully at his right hind. To me, it looks that there is slightly less flexion in the hock than in the left, and he also appears to swing it under his belly when bringing it forward. The left looks a lot straighter in it's movement. You'd need to look straight at him from behind to be sure though. Would be a good idea to video it and slow it down like this, it's good to be able to look in slow mo!
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Post by jennyb on Dec 31, 2009 18:46:41 GMT 1
He appears to do it in walk too, although again it would be easier to tell with a view from directly behind.
Must get in the shower, we've got people coming round in an hour, eek!
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Post by Trouble on Dec 31, 2009 18:47:41 GMT 1
My camera memory card was full after thses today....no way of getting any more in one day (unless i take laptop to yard with me!!)
I need the ground to be less wet and slippy too, I was struggling to to fall on my face trotting him up!
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Post by peppertop on Dec 31, 2009 18:59:37 GMT 1
I'm going to get Deb to comment on these as she's the trimmer round here! But I would agree with Jenny basically so far, about his feet and the action of the right hind.
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