Help please, Pony ill, any idea's?

[maliksparky]

The horses are at Goudhurst (few mile from Tunbridge Wells) Kent.

[lucia]

Sorry to hear your pony is poorly. Please please call the vet - if the pony is lying down that much and her breath is short and shallow then she is clearly quite unwell.

Call the vet sooned rather than later. Tonight might not be a bad idea.
Hope the pony feels better soon.

[maliksparky]

Hi Ba, I left her in xmas eve and she was checked on regually, she seemed to be getting better, when I say xmas eve, it was in the evening, she was checked through out the night, 1st thing in the morning etc, she did seem better, I spoke to some people that said they had all been charging about and thought maybe it was a chill, or mild colic.

This pony has not just been left, she has been checked on often, she seems "more with it, and better within herself" today.

I have worried all xmas over her, and I will ring the vet tomorrow, her breathing is fine now, and I would of rung the vet if her breathing had continued the way it had.

I have bute, but have not given it to her because it mask's the pain (you think they are better, but it's the bute talking)

I only posted to see if anyone had any idea's, please don't have a go at me, I've had a crap xmas as I am worrying myself sick, my friend lives opposite the yard and is watching/looking after her when I am not there.

[ladynowak]

If you are that worried, just call the vet and put your mind at rest. You could have saved yourself a sleepless Christmas, so don't let it give you anymore sleepless nights/worry you anymore and get the vet out I hope she is ok.

[ba]

Checking on her is all well and good, but she obviously requires professional attention, why wait until tomorrow when you can all the vet out now?

[suewhitmore]

I'm going to start a new thread about the mycotoxins because I don't want to hijack this one and I have to copy an article in full as I don't have a link to it. A toxin is a poison, mycotoxins are poisons that come specifically from fungus. One of the symptons of alkaloid poisening is paralysis. In horses, this can present as a temporary paralysis of the gut which can cause an impaction colic, even though the horse has not eaten anything abnormal, sometimes only grass.

There is hardly any research on this - I have just noticed so many cases reported in the last couple of years or so, when we have had these mild wet winters and warm wet summers. I am very worried, as it is beginning to seem that grass keep is the *worst* thing you can do for your horse rather than the best. Anyway, I'll start that thread - I'll call it "Ill at grass".

[maliksparky]

Hi Ba, because she is better than she was, just asking for idea's as to what could be wrong, if I thought it was life or death, then yes, I would call the vet now, thing is I don't think think she is going to drop down dead now, and it can wait until the morning.

I have called the vet out at silly times when I have thought it's life or death,or horse/pone is in real agony (if she was she would of sweated up and been alot worse)

If I added up my vet bills over the last few years it would run into thousands. (prob about 10k)

I was asking for idea's, not to be critasized.

[maliksparky]

Thank you Sue, that will be really helpfull.

Many thanks

Em x

[ba]

You asked for ideas and I gave mine, if you choose to ignore it then that is your choice.

[maliksparky]

Ba, you don't have to be rude and un caring

[ba]

As someone who has recently lost a horse, I am being extreemley caring, hence my suggestion. I have not been rude to you, I have meerly given an idea, which is for a path that you do not wish to choose. That is your choice to make and I do not judge you for it. Re-read my posts and you will find concern not rudness.

[maliksparky]

Ba, when a pony goes up and down it is hard to know what to do, when I am there she seems better, when I am away from the yard I can only go by what my friend say's who lives opposite, I have been very lucky that she has kept a close eye on her when I am away. I live a 20 min drive from the yard, and even though I have been there as much as possible, I can not sit with her 24/7, and even if I did I won't make her better. I understand what you are saying about the vet, but, sometimes after they have been stabled for a night they can make progres. I don't drive, so I am relient on my husband, I have been there as much as possible, but I also trust my friend, who lives opposite. If you knew the pony, or saw her yourself you would know what I mean.

It is very difficult to explain over the internet, and I do appreciate what you are saying, but it still sounded harsh.

That is just MHO

[june]

One of ours had something similar last week. She looked like she had colic but it wasn't quite the right symptoms of colic. She wanted to roll a lot but was doing droppings. She hadn't eaten all her tea which was unusual. She was perfectly alert and when I turned her out in the arena she was keen to trot round with the Shetlands after rolling a few times. The vet came out and had a look at her and said he'd seen quite a lot of older horses with similar symptoms. Her gut sounds were normal and when I brought her back in from the arena she tucked into her hay quite happily. Thankfully she was fine the next day but I'm wondering if it wasn't related to Sue's article.

I had one with similar symptoms a couple of years back, again similar to colic symptoms but just not quite. She wanted to roll and was in obvious discomfort but was doing droppings. I got the vet out and she'd torn her aortic valve in her heart. She's now retired and enjoying life eating grass!

Any symptoms that look vaguely colic like are always worth consulting a vet about, even if it is just to chat through them over the phone.

[specialsparkle3]

Dec 26, 2008 22:30:05 GMT 1 maliksparky said:

Hi, her gums look fine, had a good look in her mouth, she has been in since 4pm xmas eve, apart from 4hrs turn out today, which she spent most of it laying down.



Em

A pony that only goes out for 4 hours and spends most of it lying down, is clearly a sick pony.

I cannot believe that someone with a pony who has repeatedly shown symptoms of being most unwell over a few days has not yet called the vet--------------because it's CHRISTMAS!! so what, if your horse is ill you get a vet whatever time of the day or night it is, or ,quite honestly, you shouldn't have one. We are not qualified vets, so ask someone who is, before you find yourself in the same boat a Sue Whitmore's friend.

[specialsparkle3]

ps. I had to have the vet out on Christmas day morning------------I didn't hesitate for one second.