Confuggled!
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Post by Confuggled! on Dec 29, 2006 20:26:53 GMT 1
Thanks in advance guys!
The problem:
We have two geldings, a 17.2hh Chunkster and a 16.2hh TBXID now the TB has no issues being without the 17.2hh, however vice versa and its getting dangerous!
If my boy (polo 16.2hh) is even out of sight for more than a few seconds my partners horse (Remi 17.2hh) gets really upset and has on a few occasions dragged my partner (who is not a small man by any means! 6ft 6) to catch up with Polo.
Its kind of getting almost dangerous...
We need some help any advice would be hugely appreciated!
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Post by sandalfarm on Dec 29, 2006 21:33:03 GMT 1
I too have this problem now. After 5 weeks together, my new pony and his field mate, a neurotic mare, have become inseperable. If mare goes out, he has to be in his stable. If I put him in the field he goes demented. Likewise does she. They both go out on their own as riding together caused problems for both of us, trouble is, my boy doesn't know his way around so unless I walk with him, he tanks off home to find mare! I can't get another pony, I will move away asap but this may help, if it is possible for you to do this. My sympathies are with you, fat lot of good, they are!!
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Post by aliceinwonderland on Dec 29, 2006 21:41:48 GMT 1
isnt that similar to a situation you would have with an unweaned foal and mother? so wouldnt you treat it in a similar way? also some very swift and final ground manners may come in handy for remi? just some suggestions but hope you get on ok with them
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Confuggled!
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Post by Confuggled! on Dec 29, 2006 21:49:11 GMT 1
Im afraid i have never worked with a foal and mother so i wouldnt know what is supposed to be done? Remis ground manners are actually very good.. thats why its quite hard to understand how to treat it?!
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Post by Gail&Merlin on Dec 30, 2006 17:03:59 GMT 1
I sympathise totally, as dancer is being a right doughnut about gypsey being taken away, ive just been doing it a couple of times a day, taking one away, and hopefully before long they will realise the other is coming back soon...and not to be so dramatic about it..
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Post by dreamchaser on Dec 30, 2006 18:31:06 GMT 1
I have this problem with my cob. It is difficult but what I did was take him into a school and ensure he joins up with me. Then on a daily basis I would take him out in hand to the nearest juicy grass patch. I would then let him graze for a while and then take him back to the stables. Then every day I took him away from the herd and let him graze in a section on his own for half an hour. As he improved I lengthened his time away from them. I did see a lot of improvement. Especially at Shows when he had no herd member at all with him. Good Luck..
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Post by holly on Dec 30, 2006 18:38:39 GMT 1
hi confuggled, i have had exactly the same problem with AZ, but now we are about there, but it has taken along time to let him no he is safe and that his true love will come back . I found that when stabled if i take him away he is fine but the other way round he would rear , kick the walls and if you were in the way, god help you , in the field he has jumped fences and alsorts to get to were he wants to be. The best thing i can suggest and it will take along time, is see which he prefers him took away or the other way round. If he is OK to be took away then do so , give grass or a feed , make it nice. When it comes to turning out, him first, followed by the other a bit after. The same with bringing in him one day then her, be confident don't let him push and certainly no dragging . If you have a feel for a rope , before they have even attempted to take off you can feel it, at which case you stand, back up two or three pases and walk on. If it is to bad then a halter . I have used a b nice but this can be a harsh halter in the wrong hands and only should be used if you no how to work it and give with your hands and use no voice. Hope that has been of help chic. holly PS do not attempt taking other horses away on a ride until he starts to be happier with the other. Also if it is just them two in a field, i found that when i put AZ in if i threw carrots in it would help him for a couple of minutes at a time. best if some one stays with him to start as well but not in the field. work together with your friend as a team and in no time he will be a new horse.
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Post by aliceinwonderland on Dec 30, 2006 22:02:18 GMT 1
hmmm, maybe when you take remis away give him somehting he likes, carrots etc. make it an enjoyable experience to be away from polo? good luck
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Post by gemmy18 on Dec 31, 2006 1:30:54 GMT 1
Do you have Kelly's book Perfect Manners cause on pg 140 there is a section about separation anxiety. It pretty much says to "regularly expose tehm to short serparations from their companions." like distracting them wiht food or brushing them, what everyone else has been saying really.
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Post by jo on Dec 31, 2006 17:33:33 GMT 1
can you ride together? then split off and rejoin making bigger and bigger circles start very small, literally turn horses head away from eachother to begin with. Once horse gets to know out of site isn't so bad (because it's so temporary) then you can build on that. When you ride together, put the horse to work (collection, shoulder in, hips in etc) , only let the horse relax when it is going 'away' from the other.
On the ground, practice maybe leading both horses together with one of you doing the same as ridden, going around to the rear and then forwards, so although the horse temporarily goes out of sight it is behind the first so reassuring at the same time...build on getting the hrose to listen to you when you lead. Lower the head if possible, lead in a bridle to begin with...teach hrose to lower head and walk then ask for same calm walk while leading exercises. Practice leading safely with horse having very clear boundary as to where he should be when led, whether that is an arms length away at the side, behind (I prefer behind) or wherever you lead! But you have to make it clear to a horse who isn't thinking of you that you insist he walks correctly in his own 'space'!
If one horse is taken out of a stable and the other can see it being led away as long as stabled horse is not going to hurt itself I would really just leave him to it. Let him see the other horse doesn't go anywhere. Just gets some ground work outside of his stable. Repeat...but I'm afraid I would let a horse go cold turkey and make sure horse is in a place where it cannot get hurt and leave him to it. Minute he responds to your patient request that he stand quiet for headcollar or whatever is when the other horse comes back again...don't make a huge deal, jsut be matter of fact and business like.
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Post by holly on Dec 31, 2006 18:36:27 GMT 1
Maggot some great ideas there, but if this chap is anything like the problems i have had, he will literally kill you to get to the other. The cold turkey idea is a good one, i could not have done that with mine because he would literally have pulled the stable down, i found little and often slowly encouraging the penny to sink in. I think it boils down to how bad he is, to which way is best to go with him, i may actually try some of your riden ideas because he is about at that stage now to be able to take that,
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Post by sandalfarm on Jan 3, 2007 23:51:27 GMT 1
I am scared now of taking Thor on the road as he canters back down the road in the direction of home, he crosses the road to do this. It isn't a bolt, just an unstoppable canter!
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