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Post by sarahfox on Dec 28, 2007 10:48:20 GMT 1
Following on from the recent discussions about stronger bits for essential brakes,I found the single most important thing I ever learnt from a safety angle is the one rein stop,it really is a life saver imo. Here is a vid that Kanga posted a while ago, its a pretty concise description of how to train the one rein stop,personally I always treat when the horse 'tries' and it works great with clicker type training too,but just to give the basic idea: uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fmpDSbXPtzUThanks Kanga!
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Post by melissa on Dec 28, 2007 10:57:18 GMT 1
I remember that vid clip! Brilliant.
Sarah - I think I am going to send you George as he is misbehaving again......!! I would like you to stop him bucking, do one rein stops etc!!
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Post by iwillbuy on Dec 28, 2007 11:01:14 GMT 1
ooh very useful my daughters pony is a bucking freak so i might just start adding this to her lesson
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Post by melissa on Dec 28, 2007 11:06:45 GMT 1
ooh this was not the vid i thought i had seen, very interesting.
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Post by rj on Dec 28, 2007 11:08:27 GMT 1
That's the basic NH teaching - everything we start off learning is preparation for the 'emergency knock engine out-of-gear' stop in halter & rope.
It is important to do the prep, bit by bit (pun - hah hah!) not just the whole thing & expect it to work.
Flexing to each side, & disengaging HQ from the ground, before putting the 2 together then the same when mounted, at halt walk trot etc.
Once we can safely stop, we can go on to more advanced stuff!!!
It's very effective when riding without a bit.
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Post by jinks on Dec 28, 2007 11:13:52 GMT 1
this is a good way to stop i was shown it many yrs ago when I had a horse that was hard to stop, you need to be carefull though as I did it too tight one time and the horse fell over. This guy makes it look easy though, a good quality video and explanation.
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Post by jo on Dec 28, 2007 11:42:42 GMT 1
this guy is interesting. I posted clips from his site many months ago about dangers at feed time and how to handle horses etc etc, then tried to get people to see his site for other articles (most on here slammed it) but seemed to get no positive feed back so I gave up. I particularly like his rehab stuff he does for problem horses, of the track racehorses too. His articles about dangerous trailers, the lateral mouth and videos (hear your horses?) are very informative too I found but hey, I gave up trying to 'sell' him to this board. I think it was LizP who was so vehemently against anything I said about the guy.
Also interestingly, Endospink or The Tap (Endorphin Tap) was discussed on this board a while back and that looks pretty much like a one rein stop (half tap) taken to more use than just stopping the horse's forwards movement, his videos are very interesting too especially the 1 - 6 he posted on the stress of horses being broken in (his way) and the heart rate. These guys are doing much for horses screwed up by people I hope.
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Post by Cheryl Walmsley on Dec 28, 2007 11:53:39 GMT 1
I'm going to try it but part of me thinks if I did that to sherb from canter he would either fall over or have a major paddy.
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Post by sarahfox on Dec 28, 2007 12:15:01 GMT 1
Sorry,watched the vid months ago,and didnt get time to rewatch before posting. Im not advocating anything else this chap does as I have no idea who he is or what he does! I used the vid purely to show people what a one rein stop is,and how it can be taught,not sure I agree with some of his terminology,but there do tend to be things from all areas of horsemanship that we can learn from. One very inportant thing is that you teach the one rein stop from the halt first,even from the ground if necessary. Parelli ( boo!Hiss! lol!) do an excellent job with it. Basically the first step is to gradually ask your horse to bring his head round to your knee ( if ridden) this is best done by asking with 'strokes' of the rein,instantly stopping when he 'tries' and rewarding.When that is established so that a simple unilateral 'lift' of the rein gets your horses head to your knee you can then do the same in walk,then trot and finally canter.When its working well from a steady canter you are ready to go hunting! The time spent is well worthwile,it does work with most horses without training but there are 2 problems,firstly you will likely get spun off by the centrifugals if you have a sensitive horse! secondly,many horses are laterally quite stiff and do need the training to learn to flex easily,and yes,without it the odd one may fall over! It depends on the horse as with all good training,some will flex easily straight off,but izz,my extremely cooperative PRE just didnt get it atall until a polo was offered which he took from my hand by his flank and said " well if thats what you want then why didnt you say so?!" If that happens its just reverse training,ie,get what you want with the treat then teach the aid you want to use,ie the rein.
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Post by iwillbuy on Dec 28, 2007 13:04:12 GMT 1
i remember the feed thread
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Post by hkvevans on Dec 28, 2007 15:53:09 GMT 1
I was taught this when my mare used to rear. It worked well, although there was once or twice when she threw herself on the ground bcos she had no option but to give into the rider (not me on her but my instructor), she had to have the last word!!
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Post by Cheryl Walmsley on Dec 28, 2007 16:05:39 GMT 1
I've seen a video of you doing that sarah. I'll try it, obviously I'll just work on it from a standstill and then work my way up.....or possibly down!!
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Post by jinglejoys on Dec 28, 2007 16:33:15 GMT 1
Already started the basics and I haven't asked Malaga to move his feet yet.
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Post by sarahfox on Dec 28, 2007 16:35:44 GMT 1
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Post by rhillahorse on Dec 28, 2007 16:43:44 GMT 1
Also interestingly, Endospink or The Tap (Endorphin Tap) was discussed on this board a while back and that looks pretty much like a one rein stop (half tap) taken to more use than just stopping the horse's forwards movement, his videos are very interesting too especially the 1 - 6 he posted on the stress of horses being broken in (his way) and the heart rate. These guys are doing much for horses screwed up by people I hope. Sorry for meandering the thread, but I think the one rein stop is very different to 'The Tap'. The one rein stop is primarily to stop forward movement by disengaging the hindquarters, while 'The Tap' is a much more extreme, forceful twist of the head with the intention of putting the horse on the ground.
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