Please STOP arguing!

[piglet]

I have been following developments on this site every day, and visiting equinesection at least once every day. I have been unable to rescue one of the horses for financial reasons - otherwise I would have done so.

I am so disappointed that once again, someone has felt the need to turn a genuine, healthy initiative into an awful tit-for-tat fight. Nasty PMs? Negative messages? Give me strength…

We are all in the same corner here, everyone has the right to raise a concern or a question but nobody should be name-calling or putting down the efforts of people who are working unpaid, night and day, to make a difference. If anyone feels that strongly, they should be joining them and working together, singing from the same hymn sheet to avoid confusion.

Whether that difference is in the area you would like to see it in is NOT the point - we are all free individuals who can focus our attentions where we please. I would expect everyone to be congratulated for any efforts they make as the one thing we all want is for no horse to suffer.

At the start of anything new, there will be confusion. Please let's work TOGETHER, please don't let anybody feel persecuted for trying to help, and please let's be big enough not to start sending vindictive messages.

THANK YOU to Lisa, to tag, to Melissa, to everyone I have probably omitted who has dedicated so much to this. PLEASE continue. And to the rest of us, let's have equinesection as our central resource - Chinese whispers won't help anyone. If we all work to the same principle, with all information available from there, then we cannot get this confused and accusations can't fly.

I for one am attempting to get certain members of the media interested in this site - I think it is a genuinely fantastic campaign in conjunction with the ILPH efforts. But I don't feel I can direct them here while this kind of thing is going on, it would not generate the type of publicity the horses so desperately need, in fact it detracts from what is a wonderful thing.

If you don't agree with the rescue process in principle and/or have raised genuine concerns, fine. But after that, the information is there for people to make their own decisions. You must let them. But understand that the people running this have been way more involved than most of us, and have had to witness some distressing sights. Who could choose which horse went on the slaughterhouse lorry? They have had to. That's haunting. Then imagine you had to deal with that, and received some less-than-helpful correspondence, seemingly making accusations that things aren't what they seem. I think I'd feel pretty despondent somehow.

Let's be careful who we start flaming, as without those people's efforts, lots more horses would have met a sad, lonely end by now.

Stop the infighting, please - I promise I will do all I can to get this and more so, the wider export issue, more publicity but we are shooting ourselves in the foot at the moment…

[tia]

Well put Piglet, I agree. xx

[circusdancer]

Agreed!

I have had misgivings, admittedly, which I’m not prepared to go into, as I think enough people have said what they think, where they have felt strongly enough about this situation, to do so. No-one should be feeling deflated when they have put their heart and soul into something like this. Lisa, Lucy and everyone else involved - hold your heads up and fight for what you believe in but don’t make yourselves ill in doing so - you can only do what you can do!

We should all maybe recognise that everyone here is FOR the horse. We all have individual missions that may not be the next person’s choice - that makes neither one or the other person right or wrong, when the ultimate goal is animal welfare.

Whether people choose to rescue horses in the UK, France, Belgium or Timbuktu or whether they can only help the horses by highlighting the campaign, they should NOT be slighted for their efforts. When they turn a blind eye, perhaps, some of the comments might have been justified but that’s not happening here.

I read that thread today and was appalled by the photos of those poor horses in Belgium. Stacking their suffering as being more important than the horses in France hasn’t helped them now has it? The thread has subsequently been deleted. There needs to be another thread created, certainly, because people need to know what is happening in Belgium. Not, though, at the cost of all other causes! Everyone should have the right to choose to support whatever cause they wish. It’s called freedom of choice.

Live and let live eh?!

[jl]

well put circusdancer and piglet, Equine section is going through a review but will reopen asap as we have a number of horses on there who could find a home, Im all for raising awareness on any cruelty and i think you all know me by now that i will do what i can where i can. Im sure that if not before people now relise this isnt a french site it is a global site and all our volunteer staff will be happy to do what we can. weve just had a meeting and will have another soon. We wont be put off or out, right now our voice is the voice of these horses which for as long as equinesection is down is not being voiced. All support really needed if you cant or dont want to buy a horse please do help us raise awareness. I will ask Tia to post shortly to tell you all the wonderful news about the event in aid of equine section and ILPH all funds raised will be donated to the ILPH to carry on with the campain which obviously equinesection supports 100%. Until then we will be making the site clearer to all. Thanks Guys xx

[melissa]

thank you piglet
x

[eden]

Well said, just sorry could not take one on. But well help rise some money, and help put a end to this.

[jl]

to buy a horse isnt compulsary but we would love the support, even if it is just to sign the petition agains live export for slaughter

site is back on xx

[bhpride]

Will I think what's being done is nothing short of WONDERFUL! It's the individual horse that matters, giving him or her a chance of a much better life and that's the bottom line.

Imagine if you were a french horse (close your eyes) and you had the following choices:

1) Be crammed into horse lorry for endless miles, get injured, suffers lots of pain then be killed
2) Be Shot
3) Be transported to the UK to a DG tree hugging hippy to be treated, pampered, cared for and loved for the rest of your life.

Which would you choose? ;D

[jl]

oh my girl said option 3 without a doubt. Happy mare so she is. And i for 1 think shes jsu the best, love her to bits. To think of what she would have been. Its ironic to think in her condition she was actually on the fat farm. But it seems the farmers concentrate on fattening good doers the type that look at grass and put weight on. Its a sad thought i i cant say this is factual but it appear to me that where another large one wouldnt have fitted in the lorry she would have been pushed in to up the quote weight. Poss a fat farm for many a holding ground for some xx