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Post by karenandco on May 7, 2007 19:26:12 GMT 1
Hi everybody,
ok we all know about my Todi, and the trials and tribulations i have had with him, well today, a friend of mine, who was a good jockey, and used to exercise young and fast racehorses for a living, he now owns his own horses (not racehorses) one of which is only a young filly, so is a very capable rider, well. he rode Todi out today so that i could see from the ground what he was like, walked nicely down the road, then on to the grass track, at the end, Tod, in his wisdom, then took off, didn't look to bad, untill he spooked at the end which seemed to "fry his brain" my friend then had no steering, no brakes, and ended up doing what i did the other day, holding him very tight, but each time you let him have a little bit of rein, he went to take off again, so you couldn't do releasing of pressure,
he has now said that he is sooo un-priditable(sp??) and would end up either badly hurting me, or end up with me,him or probably both of us dead, one minute he seems perfectly fine, and the next he dosent have anything between his ears, he says he can see he loves me, and he wouldn't mean it, but he just seems to loose it somewhere along the line
so now, the question, as above, what would you do?
karen and co
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Post by kya on May 7, 2007 19:40:51 GMT 1
Interesting experiment. I would try him out with one or two other riders and get a consensus rather than just one opinion. It does merit investigation and I think you should listen to your friend. Hacking might need to be posponed for now?
A horse not listening at all on the open road is a very dangerous vehicle and will do your search for confidence no good at all.
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Post by karenandco on May 7, 2007 19:46:59 GMT 1
hmmm, exactly, ok another question, do horses suffer from A.D.H.D the same as humans?
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Post by wozzer on May 7, 2007 20:39:15 GMT 1
Idea - could an RA help out with this? The RA might spot something us mere mortals couldn't. Worth a try? xx
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Post by angblue on May 7, 2007 21:15:22 GMT 1
Hi karen Agree with kanga about getting others to try him out & with wozzer on the RA they might well spot something. Could it be that he is just a very sensitive horse & was objecting to someone other than you riding him? Afterall we all ride v differently & maybe your friend did something you wouldn't normally do, btw just pondering not knocking your friend at all Also even the other day when you didn't have such a good ride he did upset you by jogging but he didn't tank off, which tells you something I think. It took along time for my guy to trust me & I'm not sure how he would react to someone else riding him esp as not all riders are sensitive with their aids etc, infact I have a funny feeling he would be v worried about the whole idea & might explode Is he on mag-ox? If not get him on some it could well make a diff. I would also call Roger at Trinity consultants, he is very knowldgeable & v helpful esp with spookiness etc. Blue is on one one of his supps & it has really helped his spookiness, it's not as cheap as some on the market but well worth the money ;D Even if you don't want a supp I would still call & explain whats happening with Todi, he may well have a few ideas www.justbespoke.com/And to answer your ? I would carry on as in your thread by hacking out then walking him & see how he goes.
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Post by karenandco on May 7, 2007 22:06:00 GMT 1
ok thank you peeps for your input, i have been talking to me OH, who is totally non horsey person, and one of my older daughters all of which reminded me that he (Tod ) does things for me that he will not/does not do for anyone else, i just wondered if faced with the confident issues as you all know, and you all know what it feels like, what you would do in my situation, so do you go out there to prove everyone wrong, that somewhere in there, there is a cool customer, or, do you bow to people who know horses better than you/more than you, i mean i don't know, i'm a bit stubborn, which makes me think, i'm gonna prove everyone wrong, after all, he did as i taught him and walked down the road hmmm don't know, just thought i would ask karen and co
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Post by angblue on May 7, 2007 22:19:15 GMT 1
If it were me I would carry on & prove them wrong.....safely of course! You know your horse better than anyone & he trusts you so he will listen to you more than anyone else
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Post by ktk on May 8, 2007 8:03:00 GMT 1
Its a difficult one really! If he were my horse I wouldnt be putting anyone else on him for a couple of reasons. 1- I wouldnt be risking anyone else on my own horse who was known to bolt and be quite dangerous 2- Its unlikely to do him much good, especially if you know hes a one person horse.
Im guessing all phyical problems have been ruled out? What bit is he in at the moment?
Once youve had all the usual checked I would be getting a good instructer who you trust to go back to the basics with you and try on work on the problem together. What is he like in the school? Where he bolted off the other day was that a usual hack? Does he usually get to canter on that track? If it were one of my horses Id be sticking them in a pelham with double reins until the problem was controllable and would slowly school them back into a snaffle.
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Post by karenandco on May 8, 2007 9:36:14 GMT 1
hi people,
Angblue thankyou,
K+K, ok he was in a pelham, and had no breaks, this is why we are now in a Dr Cooks bitless bridle, because if he doesn't have any brakes in a pelham, then i am not going to have any less in a bitless, my friend is a very capable rider, and offered to ride him so that i could see what he is like (body laugage etc) all of the "usual" is checked and regulary, this road has only been his usual walk, because i am helping him to go barefoot, the track he has been on before, but no not his usual canter track as we don't have a usual canter track, in the school, it depends what side of bed his head got out of ........ sometimes he works well ....... sometimes he is very hard work and a bit of a nut case,
by the way, when he does this taking off thing, his head is on his chest, which gives you about 6" of reins each side .... hence why you have no steering either,
not sure if you have read my other posts K+K but in short he is a ride and drive which was very badly treated before i had him, we have been doing lots of ground work and is second to none in manners, he has over come a lot in the last year, and has not been a bolter in the past, (i have riden him for 4 yrs and owned him for the last yr) my friend also has known him for the same amount of time so knows exactly what he is like,
thank you all for your opinions and suggustions
karen and co
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