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Messages posted to thread : Latest on Gracie
Subject : Latest on Gracie
From : CH
Date : 23.06.05 3:57:00 PM
OK, been to see her with the vet. He was very concerned and says she is verging on being pathologically underweight.
Good news: she has a normal temperature, only a slight heart murmour, and he thinks her condition is 99% down to her teeth.
He also puts her at 30 years old. She has a couple of stumps for teeth at the back and the fronts are damaged. However, she was fairly bright in herself and was attempting to eat the grass in a strange cow-chewing pattern!
He has given her the all clear to travel, so, all being well, 10am tomorrow she will be picked up and on her way back here!
Some pics I managed to steal on my phone:
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : jen1
Date : 23.06.05 4:00:00 PM
sorry have i missed the full story,
aint it funny how they like to nosey into the camera,so that just proof she still has a good out look on life good luck with her whatever her story, j x
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : sophie
Date : 23.06.05 4:15:00 PM
oh gud i am glad!!!
hows she duin? wot has the vet sugested to start sortin her out (if anything)
give the little lady kisses from me!
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Flic
Date : 23.06.05 4:22:00 PM
All the best to Gracie and yourself, keep us updated.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : rosie1
Date : 23.06.05 4:45:00 PM
wow, that is a very thin mare. she is very lucky to have found you. She has a very pretty face and i'm sure she will do well with you. can you update us on her story?
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Roz
Date : 23.06.05 4:49:00 PM
CH so glad this is all moving ahead, wonderful news. I should think she will be so grateful to you for taking care of her and nursing her back to health.
I wonder how she has got so thin despite it being at the time of year when the grass is lush and she is turned out. I wonder if she's been kept in a stable somewhere with very limited food and turned out when it was time to be sold.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : EMW
Date : 23.06.05 5:03:00 PM
((((Gracie and CH)))))...poor old girl...soon be in good hands.
emw x
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : NickyS
Date : 23.06.05 5:04:00 PM
Poor poor thing. Thank god the lady advertised her for sale (quite brave of her I spose..). Thank god she is being moved and has a chance to be comfortable in her old age. Bless her. These pictures sicken me, they really do. Can't really say much more. Too emotional. Though I suspect in this particular case it was down to ignorance on the owners part rather than brutal negligence and cruelty (even though the ignorance in effect caused cruelty.. does that make any sense at all?).
Anyhoooo! She is off tomorrow? Is that plan of action still going ahead? To pastures new.. Well done to all concerned!
Incidentally, on another matter I understand KAS to be co-ordinating pledges of funds to help.. I realise this no longer was to go towards the purchase of Gracie but might end up donated to EMW or the like. I emailed KAS the other day to "honour" my pledge and have had no reply. Does anyone know the current situation regards this?
NickyS
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : CH
Date : 23.06.05 5:50:00 PM
Thanks all. Yep, she is very bad. Her teeth are such that she is getting no goodness from the grass and is therefore a walking bag of bones. She needs 4/5 small, easily digestable meals a day.
She is also going to have the rest of her teeth done, be wormed straight away, and spend the next few months recuperating.
10am tomorrow we are picking her up.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From :
Date : 24.06.05 9:06:00 AM
Best wishes for recuperation. She looks like a very kind mare.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : KAS
Date : 24.06.05 9:09:00 AM
I have just got back from the New Forest NickyS, so will reply to you later. Thank you for the kind donation, it is the only one so far.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Jenna
Date : 24.06.05 9:12:00 AM
Poor little mite. I was worried in case the vet said she couldn't travel. Good news!
Well done CH! Look forward to following Gracie's progress with you!
Jen, the full story is on a post called "Urgent - anyone live near Stafford" or something like that - I'll see if I can find it.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : NickyS for KAS
Date : 24.06.05 9:18:00 AM
Thanks for that KAS - sorry did not mean to chase you -
Now onto to everyone else who pleadged donations. Will you be honouring them so we can help some other needy cases? KAS I wonder if you could repost your email address on this thread? (did not want to take the liberty of doing it myself..).
Good luck for Gracie (today?) at ten. Please let us know how the lovely lady gets on with the move.. Poor little mite.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : mc
Date : 24.06.05 9:21:00 AM
wow CH the for sale pictures didnt show the full extent at just how thin she is. Thats absolutely appalling.
We have a pony on our yard who through age has lost most of here teeth, the owner is wonderful and manages it very hence the pony is in fantastic condition. I know you are taking professional advice but I might ask her what she feeds to keep her condition if you want. Every little bit helps hey.
CH your a star for picking up this pony and giving it a life it should have been anyhow. God bless you. Please keep us updated I would just love to see her progress.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Ann NF
Date : 24.06.05 9:38:00 AM
Well done CH , and good luck to this dear little mare. I hope she travels to you well.
I have seen ponies out on the New Forest who get this thin, but who put on weight again remarkably when their owners take them into their holdings for worming, teeth and a bit of feeding.
Sometimes older ponies have old, long standing worm damage which limits their ability to absorb food.
Do let us know how Gracie does on her "feeding up" regime.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Kerry W
Date : 24.06.05 9:44:00 AM
KAS,
I pledged £10 last week. So sorry, have been offline due to work pressures!! (Had to remember, I do have to actaully DO some work sometimes!! sigh, I dunno?!)
I will still donate however, it is 1 week away from payday, and I'm skint! If you would still accept it, a cheque will be in the post middle of next week!
Email me, remove spaces, and replace the $ with .
kweatherburn@
stloyes $ac $uk
So pleased this mare has been saved, I am sure with the love, care and attention coming her way, she will thrive! She looks a lovely sort, do you know her breeding? Sorry if this info is posted already!
God, bless you CH!
K
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Victoria A
Date : 24.06.05 12:12:00 AM
god those pictures brought tears tomy eyes, the poor poor little lady, how on earth could they let her get to that state?
Hope the journey goes well today, keep us updated.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : CH
Date : 24.06.05 12:40:00 AM
Well, here she is, at home now
Big thanks to CJ for bringing her over. We had a scary moment where we thought she might not load - but patience and a few pony nuts persuaded her. Once she was onboard she travelled fine.
She is now out in the paddock with the field shelter and she has had a bucket of sugar beet, alfa a, top spec soaked into a wet mash with a dash of blood liquid (thanks for that tip EMW). She absolutely loved it and we sat and watched her eat every bit.
She's met the others from a distance and squealed at them already - she's a fiesty madam considering.
She's also met a bright yellow sponge (she was a bit nervous of that) which I wiped over her to try and get rid of the horseflies she attracts and she let me spray her with fly spray all over.
She's grazing, and she's had a roll, and she is coming up for a fuss every five mins
I have every hope we will see a big improvement in this little mare and soon. She was genuinely hungry for her feed this morning, which, to me is a good sign that we can turn her round. I am much more positive about her this morning. Will go and get some more pics in a bit!
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : CH
Date : 24.06.05 12:42:00 AM
PS - she will be wormed tomorrow, feet done tuesday and dentist ASAP.
Yes please mc - would appreciate any tips on feed.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : wiffy
Date : 24.06.05 12:48:00 AM
This story is amazing!
Well done to all involved and if I can help in anyway please do let me know.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Strawberry
Date : 24.06.05 12:53:00 AM
Fantastic news!
I'm happy to make a donation to help another pony in need. Will email KAS now.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : emw
Date : 24.06.05 12:55:00 AM
CH... I bet you already know this, but re worming, when they come in here very very thin we tend to leave the worming off for the first week of getting them used to feed in their bellies again, then worm with a gentle panacur or strongid paste, then again 6 weeks later. It tends to be the gentlest way on a gut not used to anything much at all and a week is a decent amount of time to get that gut used to more food.
I'm so pleased for you.
emw x
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : CH
Date : 24.06.05 12:58:00 AM
EMW - no, I didn't... I went on the vets advice yesterday but I am more than happy to wait - especially as I can keep her away from the others. I'll give her a week on good food first I think - seems to make sense.
She's so perky I can't believe it!
Also, her passport seems to match - she has some rare whorls.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : CH
Date : 24.06.05 12:59:00 AM
Will mail you later directly EMW for some more tips
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : EMW
Date : 24.06.05 1:06:00 PM
It's a pleasure CH. Good news re passport too. emw X
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Strawberry
Date : 24.06.05 1:10:00 PM
Hi CH,
Just a thought but do you need any rugs for Gracie?
I have a couple I bought off ebay that are too small for my two stocky 13.2 welshies.
I think I have a stable and a turnout, will check tonight. Just shout if they could be of use. I have been meaning to get them to a home where they will be useful.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : RJ
Date : 24.06.05 1:34:00 PM
Great news: So good to hear she's there & doing well.
Will look forward to more updates (& I meant to say that the suggestion on the first thread of renaming 'Lady' as 'Tena Lady' in view of the contributions, was brilliant; but Gracie is sweet)
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : sunny's mum
Date : 24.06.05 1:58:00 PM
What an incredible story, the people on this DG never cease to amaze me with their kindness and generousity. It's just a shame that everybody that posts on this site can't be as nice. Please keep us all updated on Gracie's progress.
Like above if you need any pony sized things please contact me ameliamunt@handbag.com and i'll try to help.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From :
Date : 24.06.05 2:32:00 PM
What a wonderful person you are CH, so brave to take the the lovely Gracie on. You have now enabled her to have a decent quailty of life like every animal deserves.
I wish you well and look forward to reading your undates on her progress.
All the best
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : CH
Date : 24.06.05 4:10:00 PM
OK, some pics
2nd feed today - absolutely fell on it she did. She's started whickering at me already - bless!
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Saddle sore:
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Just finished eating:
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And my favourite - going back to finish the last bits
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From :
Date : 24.06.05 4:16:00 PM
oh well done hope everything works out ok and keep up the good work,
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : gypsydust
Date : 24.06.05 4:17:00 PM
She looks like a mini thoroughbred in those pics - how big did you say she was? She's awfully pretty.
Well done you for taking her on, she is a VERY lucky girl.
My old girl will be 30 this year, and she is nothing LIKE as thin as Gracie, and still very full of life and feisty lol!
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Victoria A
Date : 24.06.05 4:22:00 PM
Aww bless her what a sweet heart. I had my old girl Beauty from age 28 to almost age 40 when we lost her, and even with wobbly toothy pegs she never got thin when on a careful diet, shows what can be done with care and good management. Heres hoping she flourishes with you!
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Subject : Latest on Gracie
From : CH
Date : 23.06.05 3:57:00 PM
OK, been to see her with the vet. He was very concerned and says she is verging on being pathologically underweight.
Good news: she has a normal temperature, only a slight heart murmour, and he thinks her condition is 99% down to her teeth.
He also puts her at 30 years old. She has a couple of stumps for teeth at the back and the fronts are damaged. However, she was fairly bright in herself and was attempting to eat the grass in a strange cow-chewing pattern!
He has given her the all clear to travel, so, all being well, 10am tomorrow she will be picked up and on her way back here!
Some pics I managed to steal on my phone:
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : jen1
Date : 23.06.05 4:00:00 PM
sorry have i missed the full story,
aint it funny how they like to nosey into the camera,so that just proof she still has a good out look on life good luck with her whatever her story, j x
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : sophie
Date : 23.06.05 4:15:00 PM
oh gud i am glad!!!
hows she duin? wot has the vet sugested to start sortin her out (if anything)
give the little lady kisses from me!
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Flic
Date : 23.06.05 4:22:00 PM
All the best to Gracie and yourself, keep us updated.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : rosie1
Date : 23.06.05 4:45:00 PM
wow, that is a very thin mare. she is very lucky to have found you. She has a very pretty face and i'm sure she will do well with you. can you update us on her story?
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Roz
Date : 23.06.05 4:49:00 PM
CH so glad this is all moving ahead, wonderful news. I should think she will be so grateful to you for taking care of her and nursing her back to health.
I wonder how she has got so thin despite it being at the time of year when the grass is lush and she is turned out. I wonder if she's been kept in a stable somewhere with very limited food and turned out when it was time to be sold.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : EMW
Date : 23.06.05 5:03:00 PM
((((Gracie and CH)))))...poor old girl...soon be in good hands.
emw x
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : NickyS
Date : 23.06.05 5:04:00 PM
Poor poor thing. Thank god the lady advertised her for sale (quite brave of her I spose..). Thank god she is being moved and has a chance to be comfortable in her old age. Bless her. These pictures sicken me, they really do. Can't really say much more. Too emotional. Though I suspect in this particular case it was down to ignorance on the owners part rather than brutal negligence and cruelty (even though the ignorance in effect caused cruelty.. does that make any sense at all?).
Anyhoooo! She is off tomorrow? Is that plan of action still going ahead? To pastures new.. Well done to all concerned!
Incidentally, on another matter I understand KAS to be co-ordinating pledges of funds to help.. I realise this no longer was to go towards the purchase of Gracie but might end up donated to EMW or the like. I emailed KAS the other day to "honour" my pledge and have had no reply. Does anyone know the current situation regards this?
NickyS
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : CH
Date : 23.06.05 5:50:00 PM
Thanks all. Yep, she is very bad. Her teeth are such that she is getting no goodness from the grass and is therefore a walking bag of bones. She needs 4/5 small, easily digestable meals a day.
She is also going to have the rest of her teeth done, be wormed straight away, and spend the next few months recuperating.
10am tomorrow we are picking her up.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From :
Date : 24.06.05 9:06:00 AM
Best wishes for recuperation. She looks like a very kind mare.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : KAS
Date : 24.06.05 9:09:00 AM
I have just got back from the New Forest NickyS, so will reply to you later. Thank you for the kind donation, it is the only one so far.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Jenna
Date : 24.06.05 9:12:00 AM
Poor little mite. I was worried in case the vet said she couldn't travel. Good news!
Well done CH! Look forward to following Gracie's progress with you!
Jen, the full story is on a post called "Urgent - anyone live near Stafford" or something like that - I'll see if I can find it.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : NickyS for KAS
Date : 24.06.05 9:18:00 AM
Thanks for that KAS - sorry did not mean to chase you -
Now onto to everyone else who pleadged donations. Will you be honouring them so we can help some other needy cases? KAS I wonder if you could repost your email address on this thread? (did not want to take the liberty of doing it myself..).
Good luck for Gracie (today?) at ten. Please let us know how the lovely lady gets on with the move.. Poor little mite.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : mc
Date : 24.06.05 9:21:00 AM
wow CH the for sale pictures didnt show the full extent at just how thin she is. Thats absolutely appalling.
We have a pony on our yard who through age has lost most of here teeth, the owner is wonderful and manages it very hence the pony is in fantastic condition. I know you are taking professional advice but I might ask her what she feeds to keep her condition if you want. Every little bit helps hey.
CH your a star for picking up this pony and giving it a life it should have been anyhow. God bless you. Please keep us updated I would just love to see her progress.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Ann NF
Date : 24.06.05 9:38:00 AM
Well done CH , and good luck to this dear little mare. I hope she travels to you well.
I have seen ponies out on the New Forest who get this thin, but who put on weight again remarkably when their owners take them into their holdings for worming, teeth and a bit of feeding.
Sometimes older ponies have old, long standing worm damage which limits their ability to absorb food.
Do let us know how Gracie does on her "feeding up" regime.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Kerry W
Date : 24.06.05 9:44:00 AM
KAS,
I pledged £10 last week. So sorry, have been offline due to work pressures!! (Had to remember, I do have to actaully DO some work sometimes!! sigh, I dunno?!)
I will still donate however, it is 1 week away from payday, and I'm skint! If you would still accept it, a cheque will be in the post middle of next week!
Email me, remove spaces, and replace the $ with .
kweatherburn@
stloyes $ac $uk
So pleased this mare has been saved, I am sure with the love, care and attention coming her way, she will thrive! She looks a lovely sort, do you know her breeding? Sorry if this info is posted already!
God, bless you CH!
K
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Victoria A
Date : 24.06.05 12:12:00 AM
god those pictures brought tears tomy eyes, the poor poor little lady, how on earth could they let her get to that state?
Hope the journey goes well today, keep us updated.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : CH
Date : 24.06.05 12:40:00 AM
Well, here she is, at home now
Big thanks to CJ for bringing her over. We had a scary moment where we thought she might not load - but patience and a few pony nuts persuaded her. Once she was onboard she travelled fine.
She is now out in the paddock with the field shelter and she has had a bucket of sugar beet, alfa a, top spec soaked into a wet mash with a dash of blood liquid (thanks for that tip EMW). She absolutely loved it and we sat and watched her eat every bit.
She's met the others from a distance and squealed at them already - she's a fiesty madam considering.
She's also met a bright yellow sponge (she was a bit nervous of that) which I wiped over her to try and get rid of the horseflies she attracts and she let me spray her with fly spray all over.
She's grazing, and she's had a roll, and she is coming up for a fuss every five mins
I have every hope we will see a big improvement in this little mare and soon. She was genuinely hungry for her feed this morning, which, to me is a good sign that we can turn her round. I am much more positive about her this morning. Will go and get some more pics in a bit!
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : CH
Date : 24.06.05 12:42:00 AM
PS - she will be wormed tomorrow, feet done tuesday and dentist ASAP.
Yes please mc - would appreciate any tips on feed.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : wiffy
Date : 24.06.05 12:48:00 AM
This story is amazing!
Well done to all involved and if I can help in anyway please do let me know.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Strawberry
Date : 24.06.05 12:53:00 AM
Fantastic news!
I'm happy to make a donation to help another pony in need. Will email KAS now.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : emw
Date : 24.06.05 12:55:00 AM
CH... I bet you already know this, but re worming, when they come in here very very thin we tend to leave the worming off for the first week of getting them used to feed in their bellies again, then worm with a gentle panacur or strongid paste, then again 6 weeks later. It tends to be the gentlest way on a gut not used to anything much at all and a week is a decent amount of time to get that gut used to more food.
I'm so pleased for you.
emw x
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : CH
Date : 24.06.05 12:58:00 AM
EMW - no, I didn't... I went on the vets advice yesterday but I am more than happy to wait - especially as I can keep her away from the others. I'll give her a week on good food first I think - seems to make sense.
She's so perky I can't believe it!
Also, her passport seems to match - she has some rare whorls.
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : CH
Date : 24.06.05 12:59:00 AM
Will mail you later directly EMW for some more tips
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : EMW
Date : 24.06.05 1:06:00 PM
It's a pleasure CH. Good news re passport too. emw X******************************************************************************
Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Strawberry
Date : 24.06.05 1:10:00 PM
Hi CH,
Just a thought but do you need any rugs for Gracie?
I have a couple I bought off ebay that are too small for my two stocky 13.2 welshies.
I think I have a stable and a turnout, will check tonight. Just shout if they could be of use. I have been meaning to get them to a home where they will be useful.
******************************************************************************
Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : RJ
Date : 24.06.05 1:34:00 PM
Great news: So good to hear she's there & doing well.
Will look forward to more updates (& I meant to say that the suggestion on the first thread of renaming 'Lady' as 'Tena Lady' in view of the contributions, was brilliant; but Gracie is sweet)
******************************************************************************
Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : sunny's mum
Date : 24.06.05 1:58:00 PM
What an incredible story, the people on this DG never cease to amaze me with their kindness and generousity. It's just a shame that everybody that posts on this site can't be as nice. Please keep us all updated on Gracie's progress.
Like above if you need any pony sized things please contact me ameliamunt@handbag.com and i'll try to help.
******************************************************************************
Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From :
Date : 24.06.05 2:32:00 PM
What a wonderful person you are CH, so brave to take the the lovely Gracie on. You have now enabled her to have a decent quailty of life like every animal deserves.
I wish you well and look forward to reading your undates on her progress.
All the best
******************************************************************************
Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : CH
Date : 24.06.05 4:10:00 PM
OK, some pics
2nd feed today - absolutely fell on it she did. She's started whickering at me already - bless!
Saddle sore:
Just finished eating:
And my favourite - going back to finish the last bits
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From :
Date : 24.06.05 4:16:00 PM
oh well done hope everything works out ok and keep up the good work,
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : gypsydust
Date : 24.06.05 4:17:00 PM
She looks like a mini thoroughbred in those pics - how big did you say she was? She's awfully pretty.
Well done you for taking her on, she is a VERY lucky girl.
My old girl will be 30 this year, and she is nothing LIKE as thin as Gracie, and still very full of life and feisty lol!
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Subject : re:- Latest on Gracie
From : Victoria A
Date : 24.06.05 4:22:00 PM
Aww bless her what a sweet heart. I had my old girl Beauty from age 28 to almost age 40 when we lost her, and even with wobbly toothy pegs she never got thin when on a careful diet, shows what can be done with care and good management. Heres hoping she flourishes with you!
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