Dumb Question; How do I become affiliated in SJ?

[stef]

The title says it all really! does it cost you to become affiliated and if so how much? and how do I do it?
The reason is that I think that me and my mare will be ready to affiliate next year as she's really good.
I am just going to try the BSJA website now...

[emmab]

u have to register the horse and you (and parent as owner of horse if you're under 18), all have seperate payments which you have to pay annually. it'll give you all the details of prices etc on the BSJA website

[stef]

I have been on the BSJA website and I am still not 100% sure what I need to do,
I am 15 years old and the registered owner of my 15 hand 8 year old mare, however she doesn't have any breed papers as she was bred from unregistered horses would this matter? I have her passport and all her flu and tetanus vaccination certificates etc.

[jor]

Hope I can help alittle.
The fact your mare is unregistared does not matter one bit, she can stil lbe reg and competed with the BSJA>

As you are 15 and on a horse (over 14.2hh) you will need to registar as a junior associate and jump in senior classes.
You need to registar, your parent/guardian needs to registar and you need to registar your horse (sorry i cant tell you the cost of this now) you will then be able to compete in affiliated classes, some like British Novice have national rounds and finals, others are more show specific and arent qualifiers for anything or 'opens' so that anyone from any grade can jump then regardless of winnings.

Before you registar I really would suggest you go to a BSJA show and watch what goes on in the collecting ring and the jumping ring.
i would also suggest you take your horse on a ticket to a BSJA show and jump a class, a 'ticket' is something you pay a fixed amount for, take it to a BSJA show, pay your entry fees for the class and you can compete along side full members although you still arent eligable for prizes or rosettes (though I have heard things about this changing...)

You may also want to consider getting a coach/instrctor specifically for jumping once a week/fortnight if you dont already. A good coach will help you understand related and unrelated distances compared to your horses stride, how exactly to approach differnt styles and heights of fence and combinations and how to ride a course acurately.

[stef]

Thank you jo r you have been alot of help, i think i have one of those day tickets hanging round somewhere, i got it free with a magazine, i have one for dressage, one for SJ and one for eventing! I have just found all the prtices on the BSJA website so I will probably have a few lessons with my old showjumping instructor and then register! and get to some shows!

[LisaM]

stef - you may find the day ticket will expire at the end of 05 this is often the case with the freebie ones - never fear - a day ticket is 3 quid - 5 quid. x

have fun and enjoy

[squid35]

this is from the bsja website: www.bsja.co.uk

MEMBERSHIP TYPE ANNUAL FEE £
Full Jumping Member 106.00
Associate Member 78.00
Junior Associate Member 39.00
Junior Member 21.50
Owner 67.00

Full Membership
Is available from the beginning of the year in which the age of 19 is reached. For members who wish to compete as a rider of a registered horse or pony.


Owner Membership
Is available from the beginning of the year in which the age of 19 is reached. For members who wish to own a horse or pony ridden by a member other than their immediate family.

Associate Membership
Is available from the beginning of the calendar year in which the age of 17 is reached, until the end of the calendar year in which the age of 18 is reached. For members who wish to compete either as rider or owner.

Junior Membership
Is available until the end of the calendar year in which the age of 16 is reached. For junior members who only wish to compete on ponies. A parent or guardian must also join as a Jumping or Non-Jumping member.

Junior Associate Membership
Is available from the beginning of the calendar year in which the age of 13 is reached, until the end of the calendar year in which the age of 16 is reached.

Designed for Junior members who wish to compete on horses and/or ponies. One parent or guardian must also become a Jumping or Non-Jumping member.

and the horse fees (this is only horses, not ponies

Grade A ** (see note 1) *0.50 140.00
Grade A *** (see note 2) *0.50 100.00
Grade B *0.50 73.00
Grade C *0.50 62.0

Im guessing that you will be grade C and i think the amountof money you can win untill you have to be grade B is £699.

Hope this helps. have a look at the site its quiet good
x

[wildrover]

The only dumb peeps are the ones that DONT ask questions ............. and the ones that know it all.

Never be afraid to ask ..................

[stef]

Hehe wildrover!
thanks squid, I have worked out that i will register as a junior associate and my mum or dad will then have to register as a non jumping member,but...
the bsja website has other options for horses;

Grade JA *0.50 56.00
Grade JC *0.50 28.00
Grade JD *0.50 22.00

what are these for?

[LisaM]

I believe this part is representing your ranking... which would be JD

[stef]

Right, thanks lisa.

[emmab]

you'd have to register your horse at Grade C
jd, jc, ja are grades for ponies

[squid35]

stef said:

Grade JA *0.50 56.00
Grade JC *0.50 28.00
Grade JD *0.50 22.00

what are these for?

These grade have nothing to do with the rider, its just the grade the horse is, when you start moving up the rank your horse will become a better grade and will no longer be able to jump that particular horse in lower classes, but this does not mean that you cannot jump in these classes on another horse.

however you dont have to worry about that to much at the mo.

as you are are riding a horse you you will be either grade A B or C (C being the lowest and what every horse starts at when first registered) Not a JA JB or JD these are for ponies.

When you start compeating and winning and being placed in classes you will win money which is added and put on what is known as a "card" when you have won £699 (i think) with one of your horses it becomes the next grade -B!

so your total membership will be £145
in my area (norfolk) an entr fee is aprox £8 for british novice and is more the bigger classes you jump. the bigger the show the bigger the entry fee

BUT

for winning a british novice you win: 1st £20.00, 2nd £15.00, 3rd £12.00, 4th £8.00, 5th £8.00 and as with the entry fee the bigger the show/class the more prize money there is! and you take this money home but also this is the money that is added to your "card"

Im sorry if i have confused you at all, let me know if you do not understand anything, i will alway help if i can!

[stef]

Actually squid you have not confused me at all! you have made it much clearer for me and i understand what i need to do!
One last question though... do i have to renew my membership every year or just when i become a senior and the horse becomes grade B or whatever?
thanks.

[squid35]

you have to renew every year both you and your horse, and i guess when you renew your horse if it has become a better grade this is when you have to pay the ew fee! you can download al the relevent forms from the website!!!!