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Post by marigold on Dec 16, 2005 11:28:25 GMT 1
Really?! Oh OK, and I guess the saddle goes over the offending area. Thanks all for your input, I realise I was trying to decide in 30 seconds flat what to do The idiot known as a farrier came this morning to trim the shetties (sorry he is an opionated git!!) and said 'oh well, if she was mine, I have her shot'. Such a charmer. I think my main worry was boyfriend said to me in hospital, you're never getting on that horse again are you? However he has chilled out a bit now and despite the fact I will be a bag of nerves, I hope to ride her again next year. I think I will give her til March off, at least there will be more time then, I also have to move then and will be deciding where to buy (hopefully) a place. I've never turned a horse away before, do I just feed her less?! And is it fair to take her shoes off? I don't want to start a barefoot debate here!! She was barefoot for about 8 months and it just wasn't working for us, she seems far too sensitive to cope amongst other things, so she was reshod. She is still on that first set and it seems really mean to take them off again after she was so relivieved to have them back on, bless her. So many questions!!!
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Post by laylaw on Dec 16, 2005 12:08:28 GMT 1
HI there, sorry you are feeling like that, I have similiar troubles with mine when she is in season and have had my nerves quashed to a pulp. To help with nervous riders I have just done a course in something called Emotional Freedom technique. I am a Bowen therapist on people and horses and often come across owners who have had a knock or two and their nerves are a little frazzled. Me included! What EFT does is help with fears and phobias especially if they can be traced back to a particular episode like falling off. It is based on acupuntcure and using acupuncture and median points. What you do it tap on various points mainly on the head and hands combined with positive affirmations. It sounds a bit weird but the results are out of this world. It has been used on Vietnam veterans who have had years of therpay to overcome problems with no results yet with EFT there problems have got better within a few treatments. I have used it on myself with regards to nervous riding and it works. The thoughts are still there but the stomach turns and nervousness just dont come back. I have also used it on people with phobias and it is great. A lass at our yard is scared of spiders and we have tons of them in the hayloft. After 1 session she could go up the loft and move around not caring whether spiders are up there or not. There is a bit more too it/explanation on my website www.bowenforall.com or the official site is www.emofree.com. I am pretty sure it will help you to move forward. You can do this yourself so if I put some notes together on how to do it on yourself, pm me and i will get something to you early next week.
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Post by holi on Dec 16, 2005 14:44:13 GMT 1
Sorry to hear about your accident. I had same years ago and ended up in hospital for 2 weeks having been unconscious for ages (and I've epilepsy but had that since childhood) Anyway final thing was I did sell him - he was just too sharp and I had just lost my nerve completely but got a new pony (bless her she died this year aged 30) and had the best time ever - we did everything, went everywhere - jumped, XC - the lot. Sorry but in the end horses are a LOT of money and I just think you must get something out of it for yourself. I never think that I am the only person that can look after my horse properly or give them a fantastic life otherwise we wouldn't speak to anyone on this board!
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Post by jenniwren on Dec 16, 2005 19:17:35 GMT 1
You must have heard that you should get back on your horse when you fall off? Soon after I got Sharnina a PBA she took fright at something in the hedge and did a typical Arab thing and jumped sideways leaving just air underneath me. I hit the ground and my head, suffering some amnesia in the process. I got straight back on and rode her home. My helmet was cracked in three places! I changed to a treeless, which I note you have Marigold, finding that a deeper seat position for the sideways jumps. I also reduced the pasture mix which dropped the energy level and she calmed down a lot. I used to find that she was head strong at charity fun rides - ignoring me and chasing after the horse ahead she thought was there. Having ridden her a fair bit in the three years of ownership I am now confident to ride bitless and have also upped the pasture mix again. I would suggest Marigold that you should face your fear, perhaps with someone with you in the beginning either on the ground or accompanying on horseback. It would be such a shame to miss out on the pleasure of your ownership and confusing to your horse as well.
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Post by naria on Dec 16, 2005 20:07:00 GMT 1
Marigold please give yourself a bit of time to decide what to do. I think earlier posters have covered most options but only you know your horse & how you feel about her. Don't be rushed onto doing anything & that includes turning her away - if she's been used to being in why change it, at least you'll still be spending time with her which I assume you both enjoy From what you say I'd keep her shoes on (but maybe change your farrier!) even if you do turn her away. I don't know what your situation is but if you can afford it & there's someone good locally could they do some work on her before you get back on & then give you some lessons together if you decide you want to keep riding her? Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Post by marigold on Dec 18, 2005 13:02:35 GMT 1
Naria - why change the farrier?! Sorry didn't understand that bit. But yes I need more time decide you are right. Jenniwren, I would have got back on had I not been unconscious and being placed on a spinal board by aparamedics, plus horse had headed back to field!!!! I really don't think she has any tack issues as we have dealt with them, she is happy in her scawbrig and treeless. The problem was I didn't ecpect her to buck as she never has before and I am not a great rider and was therefore pinged off. I even had a neck strap but as she's not normally silly I wasn't 'programmed' to grab it. From all of this I reckon she is fed too much and its entirely my own fault. Her feed has been cut back and I am looking for someone sympathetic to ride her for me for a bit.
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Post by Charlyfarly on Dec 18, 2005 16:46:43 GMT 1
Is she stabled? If she was mine I think I'd turn her out, reduce, then cut out all feed until she needs hay, and give myself a break, you probably still have concussion! Give yourself time to recover from this fall, and get someone else to ride her or loose school her, help her get all her sting out, so when the time comes, she isn't too fresh. Good luck. (you weren't the one I heard about near Ditchling were you? at least you're going to be ok.)
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Post by Louise C on Dec 18, 2005 16:58:31 GMT 1
Marigold - personally I would take shoes off if she just in the field - most farriers reccomend some time off from shoes each year and most horses can cope with it. Hunters have them taken off in the summer and polo ponies in the winter when they are roughed off.
I think Naria was referring to your comments about what the farrier would do to your horse rather than what he's like as a farrier!
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Post by mellymoo on Dec 18, 2005 18:31:13 GMT 1
Marigold, I know how you feel! My boy bucked me off in August, and since then he has basically been turned away. Not because I don;t want to get on him (well, not entirely), but he has tack issues and I cannot afford to get another saddle at the mo - until I can get a decent one fitted very well, we wont be riding out. Do loads of groundwork and in-hand walks though, and confidence is growing. Hope you get better soon!
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Post by gillmcg on Dec 18, 2005 23:34:04 GMT 1
Hiya - gill round the corner here! One thing I picked up on - you say she has a 'new treeless saddle', what is it, how long has she had it and what pad do you use? Just wanted to discount that as a contribution to her hissy fit. Won't offer to ride her for you (don't ride mine anywhere near as much as I should!) but happy to walk out with you when you're ready. My only worry is that it is so out of character for her that it was a reaction to pain. Trev seems to think she has a low pain threshold anyway as her feet have reasonably good structure but she still wasn't happy without the shoes.
ps I know the farrier who trims the shetlands is a different one to the nice chap who put the shoes back on.
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Post by Nicola on Dec 19, 2005 0:38:03 GMT 1
Personally I would still look into a pain issue hen a horse behaves out of charactor. Your horse could have easily have a problem since the last visit from your osteopath. For example my horse was seen by his chiro two weeks ago and was fine, going very well, took him out two days ago and he wasnt his usual forward self, checked him over and his pelvis is out, but he was fine the previous day, found skid marks in the field so he has obvously been hooling around... so please before making assumptions be well assured that pain isnt an issue, also it may not be where you expect it (along the back) but may be around the pevis or poll etc. It could be a soft tissue injury, bruising or something that caused her localised pain at the time and she was reacting (I had this with my horse when he went absolutly nuts out on a hack for no apprent reason, got him home to find he had been badly stung - so actually he was just reacting to pain).
With regard to mares in season, there are some mares that shouldnt be ridden in season and that are very sensitive or experianing high levels of discomfort, so if you find that your horse is difficult in season there may be a reason (just having a bad time to the more severe such as a tumour). But not many of us who know what its like to have a bad period would appreciate enforced exercise partically with the equivalent of a heavy rucksack, so perhaps we ought to be more considerate to mares in season if they object...
There are lots of possibilities but if this is out of charactor then I wouldnt make any hasty decisions. It may have just been a one of incident or there may be a problem that needs addressing.
Good luck... Nicola
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Post by naria on Dec 19, 2005 12:54:59 GMT 1
Hi Marigold
Louise C was spot on with what I meant about the farrier, you really don't need that sort of "advice" unless you're the sort of person whose attitude is "I'll damn well show you!".
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Post by marigold on Dec 19, 2005 13:41:19 GMT 1
Sorry naria didn't mean to sound so narked off, I hate this farrier with a passion everything he says annoys me!!! But when its on the subject of shooting my horse, I am on a whole different level of annoyedness! Nicola I am looking into everything I can and not ruling out pain, but to be quite honest I think it was too much food and not enough excercise and it was just a leap for joy, but like you say I am checking it out. As Gill says, she is a sensitive flower and I think that riding her in season is not great for her, I stupidly didn't even know she was in season til I noticed her winking (urgh!) at the boys in the field the other day. Gill my saddle is a Barefoot Cheyenne with a torsion nusomething wool numnah - can you come round and have a look do you think? Whenever you have time your opionion will be appreciated. You going to the meet (unmounted!) on Boxing Day? Was talking in the pub last night to my friend who runs a riding stables and she said that many of her plods and ultra reliable ones have been a bit 'uppy' recently, maybe its in the air?! Thanks again to all, really appreciate it
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Post by gillmcg on Dec 19, 2005 17:33:11 GMT 1
Visiting relatives in Northamptonshire on Boxing Day - they go right past our house (the hunt not the rellys!!) so normally I just look out of the bedroom window to see them all hammering along at a driving trot on the tarmac (ouch!).
More than happy to come over with the pads I use with the Torsion (started off with an Equitex and moved on to a Suber pad as it keeps the saddle straighter and stops it slipping). We'll have to organise something - I've only got the bank holidays off work unfortunately but could start later as I'm pretty much the only one in the office!
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Post by Persianhorse on Dec 21, 2005 23:53:15 GMT 1
I am glad that you are Ok. Dos she show any white in her eyes after this accident? Your relationship with your horse is important,you must give her some quality time,she knows you are some how frightened or keeping your distance from her,they know everything much better than us,when we are not solid in our relation with horses they will know it on sight and that is the problem for us. First it is essential to establish a bond with your horse so that she cares whether she has pleased you or not. Establish trust. Give her rewards when she pleases you,the greatest reward of all is release of pressure. Work her from the ground with long rein for the time being. Wish you the best.
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