Premarin Mares

[Vicky&Beenie]

This is a slightly random thread but i just wanted to say something that has been on my mind for a while now.
after signing a petition to stop the use of premarin mares i researched on it and i was horrified, and actually felt quite sick.

if you didnt already know premarin is a drug that pregnant women take to control hormones. the drug is taken from pregnant mares urine. the foals that are born from these mares have no use so they are sent to the slaughter. the mares follow if they are ill or lame. they are kept in the most worse conditions, i read about a mare being hung up ALIVE on a butchers hook! and even worse things. i have never been so disgusted in my life.

i really want to do something about it but i dont know what. can anybody help me and tell me any advice on what to do because this is really messing with me. i know it sounds silly but this has really got to me for some reason.
after researching more i found that there is no legal apsect to back up these mares, so it isnt illegal. what can i do? is there an organisation of some sort i can raise money for, just anything??

thankyou
xxxxxx

[sarahfox]

I too think it is quite horrific,turbotoby,although unfortunately there are many,many horrific things done to animals across the globe on a daily basis.
I hadnt even heard of this before the petition was posted on here,perhaps it may be worth pming debutante?

[debutante]

hi turbotoby i will pm you back now - yeah its sick orite and yes we have to do something about it - just to add if any one else who is reading this and does not know what its all about - it is HRT that women take during after the change / menapause - please google it but its not nice reading we have to do something to make more people know about it and what happens

[annas]

I found out about this a while back and had the recent reminder from the recent thread.

It is disgusting and especially as there are so many alternatives to using premarin! I did google it and one website said Premarin, Prempak-C and Premique Cycle are manufactured by Wyeth Laboratories and are the only menopause drugs made with animal-derived oestrogen.

I did hear once that some contraceptive pills also used it? Anyone know if that is still true? I checked the one i used and thats all synthetic.

I am not sure what else to do but i will make sure everyone i know is aware not to use these drugs. If everyone can do the same at least the word would be spread as at the moment i am sure very few people know the truth.

[debutante]

well were going to look into what we can do and we will post here to let you know see if we can get more people on board thats a good start everyone if your on the pill check this out 'annas' where id you check about your pill ? doctors or internet?

[annas]

I checked out the pill on the Internet. There will be a leaflet in the packet listing the ingredients, just google them and see what they are. The ones on mine all said synthetic so are fine.

I will be interested in helping where i can.

[Vicky&Beenie]

great! get onto google and research it its an issue that cannot be left.

[Tuppence]

One of the saddest parts of this, as far as this IH forum is oncerned, is that Monty Roberts endorses wormers made by a subsidiary of Wyeth-Ayerst, the manufacturers of Premarin.

How many remember the ads on the backcovers of many of this countries glossy horse mags for 'Fort Dodge's Quest Gel Wormers? With a picture of a smiling Monty holding a horse?

I realise that he has to make money (we all do) but have always thought he was very ill-advised to make it from the company that causes so much suffering and distress to both pregnant mares and their unwanted foals.

Wendy Valentine of the Hillside sanctuary, and former owner of Redwings, has been trying to raise awareness of the production of PMU for many years. No one wants to know, either in the US or here. There are rumours of mafia-type connections within the companies that slaughter the foals and the whole thing is a political minefield with the real sufferers being the horses.

If it is any consolation at all, some of the largest Canadian mare farms have now ceased involvement in this sickening trade.

[debutante]

ahh i never knew that about the wormers and i also never knew fort dodge were anything to do with it - hmm so i suppose im now on a hitlist due to being involved in this subject - so you say there may be mafia connections in the companies where d we go from here?- i just dont understand why there is a need for this drug when there is a herbal alternative i really dont.

[Tuppence]

Me neither Debutante. I so desperately want to raise awareness of this, but how? No one ever seems to want to know or to campaign to change things,

Am going to look for some information and will then PM you.

[Vicky&Beenie]

if we keep this on the top threads then we can raise awareness we have to let people know

[debutante]

up

[Tuppence]

up. Everyone needs to know what happens here.

[suzieq]

One thing that you can do is make sure that non-horsey women are aware that their are alternatives to the drug and to question what they take, at my local surgery the receptionsits daughter has a pony and she has a sign near the repeat prescriptions box. It might be worth a friendly chat at your doctor surgery (backed up with evidence and try not to be too emotive!).

[Vicky&Beenie]

try this link it has loads of info. but be careful it has some very disturbing facts and pictures

www.lcanimal.org/invest/premarin2.htm