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Post by gwenoakes on Dec 28, 2006 14:15:44 GMT 1
Which is best, to cement the post in or ram them in with a special machine? As a lot of you will know, my lovely, lovely man who was going to do the post and rail has had a terrible accident. We need to get the post and rail in before springtime, as farmer on adjoining land is going to be seeding. So, we have had to get someone else in to do the job, or at least have a price. This chap says not to cement posts in as this will rot them from the ground upwards. Now he should know what he is doing as this is his livelihood. The lovely, lovely man said to cement posts in! Any comments, thoughts etc would be very welcome. Many thanks.
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Post by miller on Dec 28, 2006 15:07:41 GMT 1
We cemented ours as on fenland silt and IME they move too much without
Old livery yard used to push them in with forklift and constantly had to redo them (fence got lower and lower!)
Was bleeding hard work cementing them though (esp as the mixer we had was electric and had to be by the house - we were half filling one of those big buckets with rope handles, dumping it in car boot and driving up the lane, through the gate down the field - each bucket did 1.5 holes and we had 98 to do in the middle of that hot spell in august!
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Post by eskimo on Dec 28, 2006 15:09:39 GMT 1
I was always told not to cement post in as well due to them rotting. But it does depend on the ground i suppose the ramming machines a brilliant. I had to do all my wooden posts for the electric in the field by hand with a hand rammer nearly killed me lol. Ive got lots of post & rail & none is cemented as i like to think i could replace it easily if it needed to be. The only posts we cement is the big wooden gate posts.
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Post by gwenoakes on Dec 28, 2006 17:14:56 GMT 1
Miller thats just the reason the second chappie said not to cement posts because we are on fenland. He said because the post base is square and does not have a point they will be more secure. Now it did seem to make sense when he said it, but I wonder.............? Sounds like you worked real hard Miller and Eskimo. Unfortunately we havent the time to do it ourselves and it has to be done soon. Have been busy concreting the stable floors, well slight correction, concreting 2 stable floors at mo, then there is the courtyard to do and lots more besides including re-roofing the barns, so really havent got time as well as working. Thanks for replying.
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Post by joto on Dec 28, 2006 17:21:11 GMT 1
hiya gwenoaks. we dont cement in any posts at all. this is because at some point they tend to move and the whole thing then moves including the cement base. instead we ramm posts in and knock a stone or 2 around the base if neccessary to hold firm. OH learned this when doing and agricultural training board course on fencing.
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Post by gwenoakes on Dec 28, 2006 19:11:19 GMT 1
Oh thanks Joto, much appreciated. Didnt realise this post and rail lark was sooo involved LOL.
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Post by xxx on Dec 28, 2006 19:16:21 GMT 1
I 'think' ours are cemented (99% sure) and we have no problems.
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Post by Diane with Sam & Jubilee on Dec 28, 2006 20:33:36 GMT 1
Ours were bashed in. We were told not to cement them due to the increased chance of them rotting.
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Post by gwenoakes on Dec 28, 2006 22:05:24 GMT 1
Thanks xxx and Di. Have this mental piccie now of someone 'bashing' in the posts LOL. How long has your post and rail been up Di and have you had any probs with the posts?
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