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Post by kas on Dec 2, 2005 18:18:39 GMT 1
Ah blimey, I've just said have a look on your other thread Lucky Red Glad you folks enjoyed it, and if you couldn't see the vid you like the stills. I know the girls are prattling at the start, but it's only meant to be a bit of light-hearted fun. I wouldn't mind being able to create that over 3 hours of light-hearted fun mind you... The bit with the golf buggy has me in stitches for some reason.
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Post by kas on Dec 2, 2005 23:32:27 GMT 1
Goodness, 252 views of this post and hardly anyone looking at the video. Well, it is a bit long...
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Post by Amanda Dolby on Dec 2, 2005 23:41:21 GMT 1
Hi i did wonder at the start of the vid but persevered Lovely stuff And as I wrote in an earlier thread. Oh course you can get collection treeless.( in response to someone chiro' ......and bareback and bitless. A horse should able able to carry itself its called a natural self carriage! you don't need a bloody tree in the saddle!
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Post by jo on Dec 3, 2005 11:20:57 GMT 1
Kas - I watched that video and thought it was a bit wierd at the beginning, can see what you meant about the golf buggy bit, just love that horse in the background getting up?getting down again...
don't you just LOVE the parelli trained horse - when it's done correctly. Sadly I saw a horse being 'trained' to trailer load IMHO so badly - under the name of 'Parelli's training just recently. She'd trained with Pat too. I'm afraid I was finding myself too critical and thought no way would Pat have let what happened happen or Steve come to think of it.
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Post by horsemad on Dec 3, 2005 14:55:21 GMT 1
wow thats really amazing. i really have never seen anything like it and the horse being so relaxed too
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Post by kas on Dec 3, 2005 17:38:53 GMT 1
From what I've been told about him, Honza has always been one of those Parelli students who mixed in a good dose of his own ideas as well. I think people like him are really talented and more able to be adaptable about the way they implement what they have been taught. (I think Phil Nye and Steve come into that category as well). What I liked about this vid is that everyone was having fun. OK, so the acting wasn't brill, but I can't act either Gaston looks like he is a horse that likes people, and on a more technical note, his body language is good. You often see people who are supposed to be very advanced in NH type techniques working with horses, but there is tension. When the horse is circling it's body is braced away from the person and it's head is turned to the outside. Gaston is working in tune with Honza, he is curved around him in circling and it makes a much nicer picture. What about the freedom of the bareback/bridleless canter that girl had at the end? Fantastic.
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Post by laura on Dec 3, 2005 20:31:44 GMT 1
thats is what I liked too Kas ....... the relaxation of it all ........ worth working towards LOL
I was thinking of the video while sat bareback on Taz today, no tack on at all ... her munching some hay and I shut my eyes . I could feel every time she breathed , pulled at the hay or moved a muscle before she actually moved a leg. Maybe one day ( I can but dream as I will never be as young and lithe as she !!!! )I will be able to sit balanced on her the way that gal was on Gaston at the end.
I could see precisely on that video the perfection of the basic moves we were doing at steves clinic ..... the basic placing of individual front feet from the ground we were learning at the basic level .......... and he was doing it "at canter" and liberty !!!!
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Post by misty on Dec 3, 2005 22:53:31 GMT 1
I watched it and o/h got fed up with me saying 'come and watch this bit' but he does admire this sort of partnership with a horse.
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Post by kas on Dec 5, 2005 22:59:04 GMT 1
Up for Wendy
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Post by breezeocean4tray on Dec 6, 2005 2:22:39 GMT 1
Hi, I watched the video, dont you just think its stunning to see a human and a horse like one with each other. It makes my heart glow....
I would love 2 do this with my girls Breeze and Ocean, i cant do parrelli, as i believe u have 2 mount from the ground, and i simply cant do it.
It would be nice if there was an indepth video that could show you techniques on how to go about doing this sort of thing. If there is, please can you tell me the name of it.
Im doing alot of ground work with my girls, ie: i put up 4ft elec posts about 6 in a straight line and ask each of them to go threw them. Also ive put a huge piece of plastic (off my sis,s new settee) with traffic cones on each corner 2 hold it down, and ask them to over it. Im going to tie carrier bags on the cones next, and ask them to walk up to and go round them.
But i,d love to have the knowledge on how to ask them to do what Gaston did.
Sorry if ive prattled on a bit.....the video was beautiful.......Lv Tray xxx
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Post by kas on Dec 6, 2005 11:39:26 GMT 1
You don't have to "do" parelli to achieve this, but you do need a fairly advanced level of training and understanding with your horse. At the time this was made Honda was a Parelli instructor, which takes years of work. He learnt to do this progressively, by working through the PNH programme. I think if I worked at it I might hope to be able to do all of this with a horse in about 2 years. I have got horses to the stage where they could do some of the liberty shown with Gaston in the round pen, but all and not the laying down. To teach it probably would't fit on one video. Any programme that teaches you liberty work would give you the building blocks to be able to do this, but it does take a lot of time and can be quite challenging. I'm not really into Parelli these days, I prefer to learn from others, but if you wanted to follow the programme you wouldn't have to get on from the ground unless you wanted to pass the levels. I don't think you have to do that until level 2 anyway, and many, many people don't get that far. So you could just make a start and see how you go...
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Post by rj on Dec 6, 2005 12:35:01 GMT 1
Just watched the whole vid - & phone didn't ring once: How good was that?! No sound anyway on my works system so it was a peaceful watch. Too many girlies & not enough Honza I would have to say! To the person who is using the excuse that she can't get on from the ground - I got my level 1 using a mounting block, so if you want to go there, do it. Otherwise train with some of the other NH trainers out there. Would really love to achieve the sort of seat that enables me to ride bareback (& preferably stay on whatever). How does that happen, please? I'm Ok at halt walk back-up & slow trot, then it all falls to pieces. I'm sure it's balance & relaxing that are the keys, but easy to say & not so easy to do! Nah, I'm too old, too fat & too cowardly, so will just watch & admire those who can.
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Post by gillmcg on Dec 6, 2005 12:55:53 GMT 1
Glorious!, thanks Kas. Stunning horse - really supple and light and enjoying himself. Honza's not bad either! Loved the out-take in the sand when they're trying to get Gaston to shake the sand off.
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Post by kas on Dec 6, 2005 13:03:38 GMT 1
I dunno about the bareback riding... Maybe as Honza says "Relax... relax...." Yes Honza, anything you say Honza ;D ;D
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Post by Louise C on Dec 6, 2005 16:49:03 GMT 1
I'll do anything Honza says! Good fun and worth a watch:-)
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