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Post by fin on Nov 22, 2005 11:32:52 GMT 1
Who would you recommend as a Western trainer? We've decided that we need to do an intensive riding course, since the ned is Western trained and we're not (yet). We're in North Wales, but can travel for a few days if necessary....there'll be two, possibly three of us wanting to re-learn to ride, so taking our own horse isn't really an option (he's a psycho in a new place anyway). Cherie Dermody has been recommended to me--but I think she teaches on your own horse only. David Gray--well, one person I know thinks he's great, another rolled her eyes and said, 'Don't even go there' but didn't say why Bruce Lawrence....is in Malvern not far from my mom's, which is GOOD ;D So guys, any ideas?
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Post by gemma on Nov 22, 2005 12:19:21 GMT 1
How about Bob Mayhew? He's in Hampshire so don't know if that's too far...?
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Post by Roz on Nov 22, 2005 13:10:20 GMT 1
Finn, I've been looking for Western Trainers for my OH and I was quite impressed by The Mendip Stud which is in Somerset (very close to Badgeworth EC). Have a look at www.themendipstud.com their guest trainer is Shane Borland.
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Post by misty on Nov 22, 2005 13:22:57 GMT 1
I have seen Bob Mayhew and he was fine. I think I would like to see how they worked before I committed hence I am going to see Krista Kelter (who I have seen before). I think western is the same as all riding aspects, some trainers you know you will get on with other you know you wouldn't!!!!! Most of them do train on your own horse as I wanted to learn first on a made up horse but found it impossible. Hope you have better luck! Try the WES site.
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Post by fin on Nov 22, 2005 14:31:25 GMT 1
Ohh, hadn't thought of Bob Mayhew. Doh! Thanks guys! I shall email around this evening I think. Misty, I think Bruce Lawrence in Malvern and the Sycamores Ranch in Pembrokeshire will teach on their own horses! They're the only two I've found though It is a worry, really, not knowing exactly who you're going to be dealing with and how they teach.....
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Post by catg on Dec 2, 2005 2:01:34 GMT 1
I'd be really interested to know why your friend rolled her eyes at the name "David Gray"
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Post by jinglejoys on Dec 2, 2005 17:28:00 GMT 1
Bruce Lawrence isn't far from me and I've been to watch him teach--I like him but I'm probably biased because I took Sarah-lee to a clinic of his at Solihull and didn't get ignored or stuck in a corner!
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Post by fin on Dec 2, 2005 20:56:31 GMT 1
Cat, I don't know why! Wasn't a friend as such, just someone I know in passing, and she didn't explain even when invited to do so.... so I'm none the wiser either. But I think it might have something to do with the fact she didn't like reining as a discipline in itself though, and so I guess the disapproval may not have been aimed at David personally! The subject only came up because the girl was quizzing me about my ned's breeding and I mentioned that there's a pic of my horse's sire (King Coys Command) on David's website.....with a certain Cat Grey on board in fact !!! I've emailed Bruce Lawrence but no answer as yet! Might ring up over the weekend....
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Post by catg on Dec 3, 2005 0:17:26 GMT 1
Ha Ha - that scuppered me - lol! I do get a bit protective over hubby I have to say. King Coy's Command is my little horse and he is a bit special needs, but I love him to bits. Who is your ned? And who is his dam? I'd love to hear about his babies - I have some pics here of his foals that Mark How gave me. (Mark competed him in his early days). Now, King is a family pony. He has a few issues and boy does he have a temper! However, he and I get on really well - don't know why, other than the fact that we are both canterkerous old buggers together. Good luck with your lessons. Bruce is a really nice guy.
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Post by fin on Dec 5, 2005 12:32:53 GMT 1
Lol, Cat! I wasn't being funny about David, honest. I couldn't figure out the negativity either since everything that's been said about him on here has been 100%!
Special needs, eh? Well, that sounds familiar--perhaps it's genetic?! Mine's Coys Royal Command, or JJ in real life. His dam's a gorgeous palomino called Extremely Coy, and he was foled in 97. Jay's got him mom's colouring but he really looks like your little horse otherwise! ANd he's definately got a temper--he stamps and swishes and throws a real strop when everything doesn't go his way. But he's really bright, and he really tries to communicate with us. He is the most amazing animal. He was trained by Shane Borland I think, and apparently he's an ok reining horse, but I guess I need to learn to ride Western so I can find out!
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Post by catg on Dec 5, 2005 17:26:33 GMT 1
Is his dam not "Especially Coy"? If so, we have her here at Tantramar Stud and she's a real sweetie. She had a colt by Whata Smoke this year. King loves palamino mares because she was his first - lol. Do you find JJ spooky at all?
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Post by fin on Dec 5, 2005 18:28:05 GMT 1
Oops, yes! I was sitting here trying to remember whether she was Extremely or Especially, but I was too lazy to check and got it wrong, lol!!!! That's encroaching middle age for you Blimey, it's a small world! I have a pic of her with JJ when he was a month old and she's soooo pretty (Jay looks like a donkey though!). Jay's not too spooky....depends what he's been fed, really. Anything too hi-energy, or if he's unsettled, and he can be a bit jumpy. He's ok with things like fighter planes, but a pair of jays squabbling in the hedge nearly put him in orbit at the weekend! And he's not coping too well with all the sheep round here either Why? Is being spooky a bit of a family trait too?
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Post by catg on Dec 5, 2005 20:30:28 GMT 1
King can be spooky and is terrified of pigs (a lot of them are) but he doesn't go beserk, just huge splats or turns and runs. Most of the time he's great, but he will spook with other people - that's more his sense of humour. He'll do it on purpose to scare them. When David rides him he's fantastic and he looks after me pretty well but you have to really get to know him first. He is really sensitive though and easily upset.
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Post by fin on Dec 5, 2005 20:43:46 GMT 1
Gosh, this does sound familiar! Jay tends to confront whatever's scared him, but yes--he is a bit sensitive. Haven't tried him near pigs--none round here, fortunately! His eyes nearly popped out of his head when he saw the cows, though (we thought he was going to try rounding them up, but then one mooed at him so he kind of scuttled off looking a bit worried!)Things like moving fields really unsettles him--he needs a really definite routine. And he is really difficult with new people. He simply refuses to do anything he's ever learned. When we got him he wouldn't lead, pick his feet up, wouldn't co-operate at all and was generally bargy and really difficult....he's settled down with us now after two months but when we went away for four days and left him with friends he was an absolute nightmare for them. I think people get on his nerves sometimes....interesting that King will try to scare people, to get a reaction I suppose, because Jay also seems to like that sort of thing. We've started clicker training him and he's fantastic at that, because he feels he's in control and making us pay up with food (a BIG motivation!) Is King pretty bright? What's Especially Coy like (apart from gorgeous!)?
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Post by catg on Dec 6, 2005 1:54:43 GMT 1
This is so, so familiar. King gets really worried if his routine is upset. However, he quite happily cornered a stable girl in his stable because he didn't know her - would not let her out of the stable! I had to go in and get her. He's an absolute pussycat with me, Dave or the kids. My seven year old son has ridden him across an open field and King even did some spins for him (slowly). King used to bite, was a real fidget and changing rugs was a nightmare. When he was in hard work (i.e. a fulltime reining horse) he was no problem but he does have a tendancy to weave which I manage by trying to keep his routine. That seems to work. And by turning him out as much as possible. He competed in the Summer this year with Dave because I wanted to see whether he would ever do it again or whether he was completely burnt out. (or whether he was just an extremely expensive pet!) He tried to kill Dave for the first 3 days and he was only asking him to lope a nice quiet circle. (I have never seen Dave hold onto the saddle horn on any other horse, but he did - and Dave sitting on him laughing saying "you bad pony"). After day 3 King realised that he wasn't being asked to do anything unreasonable. He just had to poddle around quietly in a reining class for me. He went to the show and got 3rd, which may not sound great but he didn't freeze up and he didn't exit the arena at speed so we were really pleased with him.
I think he's basically very bright, very sensitive and he worries if he's not sure what's going on. He loves a fuss although he pretends he's too hard for that! It's taken a while to penetrate that shell.
So have you just got Jay recently? Coy (his Mum) is in foal to Spratalena Smoke, one of the stallions we have here, for 2006. Her temperament is great. She is so easy to handle and do in every way. One of the easiest broodmares we have here. I think I may have some pics of your horse when he was a baby that Mark gave me. (I've cleaned Mark out of anything to do with King and his offspring!)
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