pluto1
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Post by pluto1 on Jan 20, 2013 20:08:06 GMT 1
Surely people who work in abattoirs can't be animal lovers to start with, there is probably cruelty going on in all abattoirs by at least one person, it just takes someone to reveal it, hopefully more will be revealed and caught out, there was something about cruelty to pigs at an abattoir, people stabbing out cigs on them etc.
Whatever these people do to animals I ld be first in queue to do same to them.
On cremation services l hope that I have got my pets ashes back, an not a mixture of someone else's lol,
How would we know as this is based on trusting the company to do the right thing, just makes you think.
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wills
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Post by wills on Jan 20, 2013 20:33:24 GMT 1
On cremation services l hope that I have got my pets ashes back, an not a mixture of someone else's lol, How would we know as this is based on trusting the company to do the right thing, just makes you think. There was a post on here recently about someone who hadn't got there horses ashed back I imagine it would be quite distressing. I have had 2 dogs cremated and I would like to think that I had them both back.... As for abbattoirs, that one that sky news revealed - sickening. There are 2 horses (was 3 till we lost on in August) on my yard that were heading to that abattoir.... the state of them was shocking and I'll never ever forget that. |
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Post by misty on Jan 20, 2013 21:38:25 GMT 1
Don't do ashes. Since leaving here our dogs and cats are buried in the garden, before that, then they had gone, the vet dealt with it. Our old boy had a really good death at 37 some two years ago when the ground was too hard even for a digger so he went to the knackerman. He died with his head on my OH's head (he was over 15.2) very peacefully, warm and very much loved. My old boy is 34/35 and he will go at home when it's his time, hopefully in a similar way. I wouldn't send them any where or be conned by any crematorium. Abattoirs are necessary and it just needs for them all to be of a good standard.
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pluto1
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Post by pluto1 on Jan 20, 2013 21:56:52 GMT 1
I have my 2dogs and my cats ashes because I know I will move in the future and want them to come with us, my dogs are in a pot in garden with rosé bush on top and my cat is on bedroom window sill in decorated tube as she loved to sunbathe there, we have to put so much trust in these companies to honour our wishes at a terrible time for us, suppose the only way to make sure is to go an see your pet cremated an collect the ashes afterwards, don't no if that is allowed, should be for the amount it costs tho.
When it is my horses time our vet uses David funnel for cremation, hopefully we ve got a lot of years yet together, he s 13 bless him.
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Post by clipclop on Jan 20, 2013 23:03:00 GMT 1
You get two types of slaughterman- the ones who get a sick pleasure from it and the others who don't.
Those who don't, do it because it is a necessary job and in their care, they can be sure it's done correctly. It's not a nice job but not all slaughtermen are evil people and they show great respect to the animals.
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pluto1
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Post by pluto1 on Jan 20, 2013 23:11:00 GMT 1
I work in a supermarket and one of our old butchers used to work in abattoir, just a job to him, he likes photographing wildlife, he wasn't evil etc, so if they were all like him the animals would be fine.
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Amanda Seater
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Post by Amanda Seater on Jan 20, 2013 23:22:11 GMT 1
I have to say my "fallen stock man"here in Worcester is an old farmer type. He is very respectful. He has sadly had to dispatch both a sheep and a horse for us so far. I will call him again when and if needed he is calm,kind and competant and follows instruction to the letter.
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Post by lizpurlo on Jan 21, 2013 0:08:16 GMT 1
The retired huntsman near us does a wonderful job - he has put two dearly loved cobs down for me and he takes great pride in offering a first-class service. Each time he has arrived with a pocket full of carrots, and has been totally kind and friendly and respectful to me and my horses.
I just don't 'do' ashes or graves, which is just my preference - I'd rather focus on setting my beloved animal free and imagining his beautiful spirit soaring away in perfect joy and love. Whatever happens to his earthly shell is irrelevant to me, although I appreciate that ashes and so on give many people some comfort.
There surely are good slaughtermen, and bad, as in any trade - the good ones do a horrible job with skill and humanity. I am desperately disappointed to hear about Turners slaughtermen - I always believed them to be capable and humane, as of course they should be.
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Post by jennyb on Jan 21, 2013 9:43:11 GMT 1
I'm the same as lizpurlo about ashes. Never had them back, the body is just a shell to me, but I know we all have our own views.
The pet crem service is an important one for me as it enables disposal of the bodies. I don't like the thought of burying them in the garden, and I don't have my own land on which to bury horses. The pet crem people were great when Cosworth was put to sleep, they were on hand to assist the vets and I had her bring her pistol with her, because Cos suffered from narcolepsy and we were quite worried about giving him a lethal injection if he was having a sleepy day, it could have been quite dangerous for everyone involved. As it was, he had the injection and the pet crem lady was on hand to help as required, and then quietly, calmly and respectfully took his body away. They do give a good service. I'd PTS at home always, and they're a valuable service for the "aftermath".
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Post by esther on Jan 21, 2013 14:06:49 GMT 1
I can thoroughly recommend Yorkshire Equine Crem - we've had the misfortune to use them twice in the fairly recent past and both times they were absolutely excellent. It was such a relief not having to worry about that side of things. They did exactly what it says on the tin and were very tactful and prompt.
I'm personally not bothered about ashes (dealing with a heavy wheelbarrow or more full of ashes is a bit of a logistical nightmare and isn't the horse you knew at the end of the day) but they will do individual cremations if you need them to.
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