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Post by anastasia55555 on Jan 3, 2011 0:46:01 GMT 1
I'm interested to find out more along with aromatherapy. i would love to be able to swan off and do all manner of courses costing goodness knows what, but i cant :-( Wondering if anyone has any tips, ideas or experiences to find out more. Unfortunatly this would appear to be one of the 'faffy' things my family would think i was wasting my time and money on at the moment :-( i can see where they are coming from, im not in the position to not work full time and pursue yet another course that i might not continue with
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Post by Catrin on Jan 3, 2011 1:15:32 GMT 1
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Post by anastasia55555 on Jan 3, 2011 1:26:20 GMT 1
Thanks catrin, after i posted i remembered about DM's online course. Il have a read and then contact her in a few days, dont want to hassle her with things atm :-). Il have a look at the website on computer tomorrow aswell :-)
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Post by jennyb on Jan 3, 2011 13:35:45 GMT 1
I used homeopathy, under the guidance of a local lady, to help Gazdag's ligament injury. It had a remarkable effect.
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Post by limepickle on Jan 3, 2011 14:49:30 GMT 1
For the horse books side of things, if you look up "homeopathy for horses" on Amazon, the first three that come up are practically a must-have. I've used homeopathy for years on myself, my dogs and horses although I know when to call the vet or try something else, like aromatherapy! I would not be without Arnica for a start.
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Post by welly on Jan 4, 2011 11:03:23 GMT 1
Aromatherapy has a lot more scientific research to back it up. There many scientists who rubbish all homeopathy claims.
I bought an aromatherapy text book from the local library sale and in France it is part of mainstream medicine. Also, of course, herbs WERE medicines until the last Century.
So if I anyone asked my advice I would say do aromatherapy first.
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Post by Dragonmaster on Jan 4, 2011 13:55:19 GMT 1
I'll help you all I can with Aromatherapy, but I'm not able to give you a qualification. I met some people at Y H Live who offer an Animal Aromatherapy course in modules you do partly over the net and partly by attending a weekend, each module about £300 and total cost about £1200 but you can spread it out over several years. I'll find the info for you in the next few days. When people tell you aromatherapy is 'faffy' you can reply that actually it is chemistry! The oils do what they do because of their chemical make up. (They do work on an energetic level as well, but you can keep that quiet from non-believers & sceptics) You will be able to take a diploma in aromatherapy by evening class at a local college - gives you the bit of paper but is all about how to give people nice massages and done by the Beauty & Hairdressing Dept!
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Post by Catrin on Jan 4, 2011 16:40:01 GMT 1
Aromatherapy has a lot more scientific research to back it up. There many scientists who rubbish all homeopathy claims.… People who don't understand it or are funded by pharmaceutical companies may call it rubbish, but those who do understand it use it and find it effective and cheap. According to a report to Parliament in November 2009, there are 50,000 doctors in Europe trained in homeopathy and many more with no training who prescribe it. It is taught as part of medical training in seven countries and is an obligatory part of training in two. Certainly when I lived in France and Austria I never encountered a doctor or vet who hadn't a good knowledge of it. Sadly it is not the same here! Some attempts have been made to provide evidence that a homeopathic remedy works for a condition, but any standard double blind placebo research will not be likely to work as homeopathy is hardly ever prescribed for a condition, it is usually prescribed for a person or animal with specific symptoms. My dog is having one of the few treatments that have been developed for a condition the results have been better, at 94% success, than allopathic 83% for the treatment of Cushings in horses and dogs. From my dog's first tablet, the Cushings symptoms stopped, which again is unusual for homeopathy as results may take a few days to show. You'll find the research paper here (scroll down to research by Mark Elliot) www.homeopathicvet.co.uk/ There is information about a few hundred human and animal research studies here www.homeopathy-soh.org/whats-new/research/evid/default.aspx
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Post by pip on Jan 4, 2011 21:06:41 GMT 1
We have a subscription to New Scientist and there seems to be a campaign to get rid of homeopathy, there are many angry letters saying that it is quack medicine and is misleading and exploiting the public. Don't shoot the messenger, just reporting.
I have used homeopathy on self and horses with mixed results.
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Post by anastasia55555 on Jan 4, 2011 22:26:44 GMT 1
Thank you everyone for your replies, need to get on my comp and have a read instead of squinting at my mobile phone lol! DM i will also contact you, i have joined your forum also :-) having done beauty therapy we covered a smidge of aromatherapy but barely anything and nothing actually interesting! well to me anyway! homeopathy i have used in a few cases like arnica and thuja and im very interested to find out more :-) i think i need something to learn that interests me, im a bit sad like that, got alot going on in life at the moment and only a few feel like they are positive things. Tonight im making lavender filled shapes that you hang up with your clothes and put in your knicker draw hopefully to sell at carboot in few weeks with lots of other stuff i have to sell :-) not so much about making money, boy its helpful lol, but trying to remember the things that i enjoy doing!
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Post by anastasia55555 on Jan 5, 2011 0:02:21 GMT 1
I need to do some reading I shall have a look at all the links/pages/journals that have been put up . Being a BSc (hons) - check me haha! I'm definetly more of a sciencey person who wants to show other people that it does work. Even though i take medication every day, and im in no doubt that it couldnt be replaced with homeopathy, and i wouldnt expect a person who practices it to even say that it could, i still know and believe that many 'alternatives' really do work, and i think alot of the problem is that other people think its an 'instead of' not a 'aswell of' (does that make sense?) lol! Its not all about never taking medication again, its doing other more natural things to help too. (well thats my perception of all alternative treatments etc, maybe im wrong?) People that reject it off hand i think maybe feel threatened? especially if its drug companies or doctors, and there probably lots of people who think they are doing themselves good by stopping medication and totally switching to something alternative, which is probably not what they should do, which is why maybe people take offense to it, and think it should be banned? Very interesting Catrin about the specific creature and not just the specific condition, definetly makes sense. I can see that with aromatherapy oils also, some people find lavender very soothing and relaxing (like me) where as others really find the smell offensive and wouldnt help them relax at all. DM i have looked up the animal aromatherapy, have a feeling it maybe the same people that you met, i would definetly be interested, maybe when i can save some pennies for it I was a little confused as to how that works to begin with when i first looked into it, but its on the basis that you can suggest the oils that the specifc animal has 'chosen' but you can not apply or use the oils on the animal yourself, but the owner can. In a way i wish that more alternative treatments would be/could be tested to prove that they do work, but i can also see why people wish to use them for exactly that reason. I know that science is forever developing, and it is good that it does i guess, but sometimes i do think, why did it have to in certain cases, because the older alternatives worked just fine!
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Post by Catrin on Jan 5, 2011 13:43:47 GMT 1
The sad thing about Science is that many Scientists are scared by things that work but they don't understand, many are scared to speak out about the non-conventional that might jeopardise their career and many are scared that they'll lose funding from companies with a vested interest in keeping alternatives at bay. The close-minded scientist will then just dismiss the non-scientist's opinion or evidence because they are not a scientist.
One of the best quotes I read recently was from a lawyer who trained as a medium to research the afterlife. His evidence was rejected by one scientist in the audience, because the lawyer, Victor Zammit, wasn't a scientist. After a presentation on his research a sceptical scientist told him, “I would not believe in the afterlife even if you could prove it to me, Victor!” It echoes the response Eddison's work got from the Académie des Sciences when he exhibited his phonograph in 1878. The french scientists who heard it in Paris, protested that it was a fraud, a piece of trickery or ventriloquism and would not be convinced that it was a voice recording.
Fortunately the French moved a long way in telecomms in the next hundred years. Their ground–breaking experiment at the University of Paris in 1982 showed that Einstein’s long held tenet that no communication can travel faster than the speed of light was wrong. Physicists Aspect, Dalibard and Roger discovered that subatomic particles can communicate instantaneously with each other, regardless of the distance separating them.
We unScientists have to tread an intelligent path around the mines that some worried Scientists lay. Fortunately there are other more confident Scientists out there to help us if we look for them in the right places. So far I have found an awful lot of them.
Whatever scientist you refer to always keep an open mind because the next piece of research you read may show that they were wrong.
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Post by sarahec on Jan 6, 2011 0:46:43 GMT 1
I am a qualified homeopath, it took me 4 years to qualify. That was a lot of study but college 1 weekend every month. It can be done on a full time course and this takes 2 years. I am also qualified to prescribe herbs and offer nutritional advice. I treat my own animals when i can, but also use my very good vet when needed. Homeopathy has changed my life and the way i think. All my children are vitally healthy because of it, and i would be happy to try to help you if i can : )
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Post by anastasia55555 on Jan 6, 2011 8:37:30 GMT 1
Thanks sarah, good to hear from someone who has studied for a qualification :-)
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