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Post by Susan on Jun 18, 2009 13:22:59 GMT 1
It can be a real struggle and hats off to all those who commit to it all but I really don't think anyone should feel the less simply because they cannot commit to this for whatever reasons. I agree... then simply shoe your horse.. nothing wrong.. many do it..
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Post by gixer on Jun 18, 2009 15:05:11 GMT 1
firstly Adi, my sinserest apologies I did not intend to offend, my choice of wording was poor and I was Nieve in thinking either trimmer I have used would not be identified unreliable was not quite the right choice of words but knowing as you had advised Rio would need 4 weekly trims the prospect of missing 1 day to me would mean waiting a further week before I was available on a daytime again. You were certainly the better at handling my stroppy madam thats for sure!
and where I'm at now.... We'll I've just found out I'm pregnant! so that buggers up my finances even further. I have now been in touch with a Farrier in the area (Andrew Marris) who has had a couple good recomendations, I'm going to have himn out to Rio on Tuesday see if he thinks her fronts will hold shoes or not before deciding which way to go, currently thinking 1/2 set to relieve the discomfort. For the last 3 days Rio has been limping very VERY badly around the paddock, I will say the the problems have come about more from the spring grass and me not controlling her diet quickly enough cos "laminitus is only a pony thing, isn't it?" !!!! She's on short rations, on a bare paddock in the day with hay thats been soaked overnight, I've spoken with the vet who over the phone said he can either come out bill you call out, consult & admin (about £100) + bute or I can get some devils claw in her and see if there is any improvement, if none in a fortnight get him out for further investigation. at least the Vet is reasonably sensible. So devils claw bought and in her grub today, fingers crossed it gives her some relief
I can not bear to see my beautiful mare in discomfort anymore, and I don't have a great deal of choices at the moment for helping her out a) trim and get boots, keep flogging away and hope she comes right - additional cost now £80-100+? b)get shoes on, wait until finances come good then try again better armed with more information and knowing what is needed from day 1 - additional cost now £0 c)sell Rio, stop being selfish and trying to struggle on on a shoestring and sell her to someone who can afford a horse - additional cost nothing but who wants to buy a lame unfit horse? would I actually find a good home for her? can I actually let my dream horse go??
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Post by mandal on Jun 18, 2009 15:11:50 GMT 1
First, many congratulations gixer on your pegnancy. I think you've made a well thought out decision in the circumstances to get the Farrier out to look. Do keep up with the controlled diet as this will help whatever is or isn't on her feet. I'm so sorry you are having this heartache but I'm sure you will make the best decision in the end.
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Post by Sam C on Jun 18, 2009 15:29:20 GMT 1
Yes congrats on your news! Well done for taking measures to control her diet, like mandal says that's something that will help in or out of shoes. I do think a front set sounds like the best option right now, especially given your news. You really don't want to be messing about on the floor with pads or boots with a difficult horse, it's just too risky. I know this is a long way off right now and you're probably totally stressed out with everything at the minute, but if you do find you're struggling you could always consider a part loan. The extra help would be useful in a few months, and the extra work for Rio would hopefully help manage any metabolic/LGL issues.
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Post by gixer on Jun 18, 2009 16:09:45 GMT 1
Sam spot on, I actually have a girl at our yard begging for a horse share. I suppose I've kept saying no as I've been in the "shes ALL mine" attitude. my only concerns is the girls a bit of a novice but Rio isn't naughty just a bit spooky at times and I know the girl (I say girl but she's 15/16) has confidence though, may have to see if madam comes sounds and see this girl ride her....... thanks for reminding me of option D lol amazing the simple things you can over look when stressing!
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Post by horsey2 on Jun 18, 2009 16:31:52 GMT 1
Congratulations on your news I think if you can rule out LGL as the cause of soreness then shoes may be the way to go for now, you can always try again when finances ect allow, its difficult to know what to do for the best sometimes and sometimes we have to compromise good luck with rio
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Post by Yann on Jun 18, 2009 17:06:04 GMT 1
Congratulations If your horse is anything like mine then shoes will instantly return her back to her normal self and you'll be able to stop worrying so much. They might have drawbacks but they also have huge advantages, and you'll easily be able to get help and keep her fit and exercised. Best of luck
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Post by domane on Jun 18, 2009 20:07:28 GMT 1
My 14yo TB had his shoes removed on Tuesday by an EP and he is currently sporting a set of resin wraps whilst he transitions. Amongst other things, Roo has the usual contracted/underrun heels and collapsed arches so his feet are very flat. I've had mixed reactions to these wraps so far from "How brilliant!" to "Work of the devil" so as a newbie to BF TB's I'm a little to be honest. I'm wondering why they haven't been mentioned at all in 10 pages of replies in this thread...
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Post by mandal on Jun 18, 2009 20:15:37 GMT 1
I've never heard of them Domane... I haven't needed to use boots etc. so personally haven't looked much into or had experience of boots etc.
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Post by Casper on Jun 18, 2009 20:16:50 GMT 1
Do you mean the Perfect Hoofwear Wraps Domane? One of my friends has had shoes taken off of her TB as he was losing so much foot it was impossible for the shoes to stay on. She's just ordered these and is hoping they will help with her boy.
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Post by geeup on Jun 18, 2009 20:33:20 GMT 1
congrats gixer, you really don't need stress right now, so I think your doing the right thing and putting worries on hold. Horses have manged for many years with and without shoes, but they don't manage without love care and attention. You rhorse must be very proud to have you as an owner.
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Post by domane on Jun 18, 2009 21:09:32 GMT 1
Do you mean the Perfect Hoofwear Wraps Domane? One of my friends has had shoes taken off of her TB as he was losing so much foot it was impossible for the shoes to stay on. She's just ordered these and is hoping they will help with her boy. Yep, they're the ones.... I remembered them as Energetics as that was what was on the box... www.appliedequinepodiatry.org/perfecthoofwear/index.htmlEP ran 3 lines of glue down the front and sides of each hoof, soaked the wrap in tepid water and then "wrapped"! After 20 mins, they had set, but they give with the hoof so they are not solid like plaster-of-paris, but neither are they soft like a bandage. I've had Roo BF on his rear feet before so I've seen him footy and sore and I'm cautiously hopeful that these wraps will help his transition a lot more this time. I am able to continue walking him to stimulate new growth and whilst the EP thinks he will need them on at least once more after his next trim, in view of the fact that Roo doesn't seem too uncomfortable, they get a big thumbs up from me
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Post by arabmania on Jun 18, 2009 21:56:06 GMT 1
the sole mates are really good too. a friend of mine is in the same position as you with her tb. simply has no foot to keep a shoe on and is instantly lame for several days once a shoe is put on. then becomes okay and shoe falls off! nice
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Post by Yann on Jun 18, 2009 22:31:05 GMT 1
I don't think gixers horse is in that position - the feet may not be pretty but I'd lay money that the horse will be sound once shod and that they'll hold a shoe.
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Post by Susan on Jun 18, 2009 23:02:26 GMT 1
I DID mention the PHW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as I was one of the first to have it fitted in the UK amongst much heated debate!!!!
and I said in earlier posts I have had 4 wraps the last one I did myself.!!!!
and I have done in the past pictures of how it was fitted..Tim did it!! after he trialed it on his own horse..I told the full tale worts and all..
I said this it really helped Flynn.. but it didnt work for all horses.
I rhave rode out in it on roads and I also have a glue I applied to aid its wearabilty on roads...
So see if you read allllllllllllllllllllllllll the posts...
and Gixer I do think I have tried hard to help you.. and offer loads of ideas and support.. other then take her on myself or be oyur trimmer not much more I could offer.. and when I said dont give up I meant dont give up... on any of it..
and concrats to the baby on the way,,
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