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Post by kt on Dec 17, 2008 8:11:29 GMT 1
I noticed Mags mentioned feeding a horse Mag ox presumeably as a method of getting magnesium into the horse, I was under the impressium availability was best as a magnesium sulphate, but have No personal experience of mag ox, I'm presuming from the name it is magnesium oxide which has questionable availability to the horse, can anyone enlighten me? Thanks K
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Post by Amanda Seater on Dec 17, 2008 9:47:07 GMT 1
kt - jackie a taylor would have the best anser for this or else finn. Are you the "alternative solution" police?
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Post by gixer on Dec 17, 2008 13:28:37 GMT 1
oh I was just about to post up asking about Magnesium suppliments.
Reading I've done so far it strikes me as a good idea for Rio, who is starting to settle into her new home more and is showimg more of her true nature, which TBH seems to be a little anxious/ jumpy/ irritable/ stressy (typical mare?!)
could magnesium help calm her a bit? this stressyness can play havoc with getting her concentrating while riding!
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Post by june on Dec 17, 2008 14:29:10 GMT 1
Magnesium will only help as a calmer if there is a magnesium imbalance in the diet. It is relatively common particularly in spring and autumn when there is a flush of grass so it is always worth a try. It isn't the solution to every stressy horse though. Some are just stressy by nature and with some it is something completely different, such as too little turnout, separation anxiety, too much food and too little turnout etc. The list is infiinite!
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Post by ba on Dec 17, 2008 14:43:20 GMT 1
I feed Cal Mag, what is the difference between this and mag ox? does anyone know?
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Post by gixer on Dec 17, 2008 14:43:30 GMT 1
how do you tell if there is a defficiency
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Post by jill on Dec 17, 2008 15:22:45 GMT 1
how do you tell if there is a defficiency Give them magnesium in some form and see whether it makes a difference is the cheapest way - you need huge amounts to overload them because it is a mineral they need in their diet anyway, but if their droppings get runny, that's often a sign that they have more than enough in their system.
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Post by gixer on Dec 17, 2008 15:49:23 GMT 1
ta will get some for her at the weekend
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Post by kt on Dec 17, 2008 17:23:50 GMT 1
amanda-nope, just a sceptic! who doesn't believe alternative=better but I'm looking to broaden my knowledge base, unless there's a problem with this? I'm not sure if you have an issue with my stating my opinions/sources/querying things rather than going blind I'm not the only one confused re: Magnesium I'm sure. Cal Mag and Mag Ox, I would imagine Cal Mag is Calcium and Magnesium, not sure what the benefit of this is? Is it another calmer? When did Magnesium become a big thing? Can you test by blood for it?
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Post by rummi on Dec 17, 2008 20:27:46 GMT 1
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Post by kt on Dec 17, 2008 20:40:47 GMT 1
rummi, I don't mean to be rude, but where does the 'most horses are deficient in magnesium' come from? That explains wonderfully the difference of CalMag though thanks
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Post by rummi on Dec 17, 2008 20:53:46 GMT 1
Hi, really from reading lots of different articles on magnesium supplementation. However, I can see that without adequate research in magnesium levels in horses, this may be misleading, so i have amended the 'most' to 'many'. There still needs to be a lot more research in this field, and I never sell it as a wonderful cure-all calmer, unlike some other companies!!!! I often ask customers if they have tried a magnesium based calmer, such as NAF Magic, and if they have, suggest that it would seem that there horse is either not magnesium deficient, or that deficiency isn't causing the nervousness. I will try and find those source again, here's one for now..... www.horsetalk.co.nz/health/magnesium-121.shtml
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Post by rummi on Dec 17, 2008 20:54:51 GMT 1
Just to clarify other calmers, Equine America's Magnitude is just magnesium oxide and NAF Magic is calmag with additional calming herbs.
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Post by JackieJATaylor on Dec 18, 2008 0:47:04 GMT 1
KT, there is little difference in absorption between the basic mineral forms of magnesium, around 70%, but as the Sulphate is a gut irritant we have found Oxide a more benign source. Chelates and Bioplexes will give you better absorption, but their concentration is so much lower you'd have to feed a lot more to get equivalence - so Oxide is a convenient choice.
Jackie
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Post by kt on Dec 18, 2008 12:46:47 GMT 1
Jackie-sorry but I dont quite understand what 70% refers to ?
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