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Post by Furiey on Aug 23, 2008 0:12:19 GMT 1
I used clicker training to get Bailey to take his wormer last time. Wouldn't let the syringe near him initially so clicked at first when it got close, then progressed to when he sniffed it, then when against his mouth, then when in his mouth, gave him the wormer followed by a polo to take the taste away, then back to clicking so he was happy with the syringe again. Not really a trick so it doesn't count, but it certainly made worming easy.
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Post by colourfulpony on Aug 23, 2008 1:28:09 GMT 1
i have taught my mare to put her head to the ground on command using the clicker, i use it if she's becoming stressy to calm her down. she also backs up a few steps then waits with her head on the ground as soon as she sees her feed bucket come out because she knows that she won't get her feed unless she does so. taught her this because when i first got her she was totally focused on food all of the time and got quite bargy. the backing up has been in place for about 4 years with the head to the ground a more recent addition to the procedure.
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Post by laura on Aug 23, 2008 8:55:40 GMT 1
as he has picked up an object i have said 'hold' and given him lots of praise and high pitched voice and stroking. but that IS positive reinforcement ;D ..... you dont have to use clicker and /or an edible treat positive reinforcement is the application of a reward / pleasant stimulus when the desired behaviour is taking place that leads to the repitition of that behaviour. even in humans that reward can be a simple as a smile spotty botty sounds like a wonderful challenge you have risen to marvelously potto .. although I also have to ensure that i have extra security on my gate to the field as he can undo bolts, he can also remove electric fence posts from the bottom and take fencing down while the electric is still on by lifting them out from the bottom and then jump or step inbetween fencing over the top, not getting shocked! In our place he would be a flippin nightmare ..... we would curse him rotton .. .. but the others neds would luuuurve him as that would let them onto the grass they dont need I think the word "trick" may be a little misleading as Kelly said its hard to find the appropriate word for something the horses do that is not part of the ridden skills / movements . The "trick" can be anything ( please correct me if I am wrong Kelly) not directly involved with "working" . I think the lowering head to calm down and the accepting the worming syringe are recent great examples of "tricks" . so Furiery . I think it counts and I am sure Kelly will agree added yes , I just went back and copied this from Kellys post Saying 'trick' to keep it simple but can (obviously) be something really useful
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Post by Kelly Marks on Aug 23, 2008 9:08:47 GMT 1
Yes they are counting as tricks (in my wide definition of the word!) and quite right doesn't have to be food reward. So can anyone get their horse to go away from them to do a task and them come back again - guess that would be the most advanced learning.
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Post by milo on Aug 23, 2008 9:18:47 GMT 1
my horses cant do tricks, but they know if i come in to the field they come to me,i never have to try and catch them, milo picks up is food bucket and will hang it over the door ready for food and quite often he will pick it up when hes finished and ask for more, its very funny seeing this massive cob with a bright red or green food bucket hanging out his mouth,especially when he follows you with it, hes like oliver,please can i have some more!lol
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Post by Kelly Marks on Aug 23, 2008 11:11:26 GMT 1
Wow Milo - that's obviously a smart horse you have there - I bet he'd love to learn something!
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Post by Furiey on Aug 23, 2008 11:27:13 GMT 1
Yes, the "please can I have some more" pose is hard to resist!
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Post by Catrin on Aug 23, 2008 12:15:08 GMT 1
Yesterday I had some success with teaching a displacement activity quite by chance.
It started off doing some single line work in the school but there were a variety of things left around from a previous session with a different horse: saddles on the fence, ropes on the floor and gate, a disembodied hand (well I knew it was a leather glove, but horse didn't.) Of course as Freyr, who should have been working on his suppling and bending, was changing rein without trampling me over with his stiff shoulder, he spotted the 'things' and stepped in, instead of past. I decided to sent him to an object next time round, so he could 'investigate' them and then we could continue with our job.
I sent him round me and as he was parallel with the fence, pointed to a blue saddle cloth. As he moved towards it and stopped, I softened my eye and hand, then used my eye and hand to send him nearer to it, softening when he touched it with his nose. We repeated this with the saddle cloth, then we moved down the fence and tried it with a rope on the gate.
One of Freyr's problems is separation anxiety, when his mate is taken away from him and out of sight. I asked my husband to walk his horse away from the school while I was working Freyr, this time when Freyr stopped and called and I got his attention, it was to send him to the blue saddle cloth on the fence. I focussed on this activity as he set off towards it then stopped and called again. On the third request, he trotted up to it, but stood there. So we stopped and I took him out of the school for his reward.
Focussing on a target, is not something we have done for a very long time and never without a clicker before. It was interesting to see how it could still be turned into a useful distraction when an unwanted behaviour occured.
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Post by Catrin on Aug 23, 2008 12:19:23 GMT 1
... So can anyone get their horse to go away from them to do a task and them come back again - guess that would be the most advanced learning. I know someone who gets her horse to gallop through flames and stick his head in his head collar. Maybe she could send him to get the headcollar first, then bring it back through the flames for her, that would be a good one!
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Post by Jenna on Aug 23, 2008 13:33:37 GMT 1
Yes they are counting as tricks (in my wide definition of the word!) and quite right doesn't have to be food reward. So can anyone get their horse to go away from them to do a task and them come back again - guess that would be the most advanced learning. Really? I've taught Indi to play fetch, does that count? I used a big rubber dog toy, started off by teaching him to touch it while it was in my hand and gradually moved on to him touching it wherever it was - I could put it on the fence, walk away, ask him to 'touch' and he'd go touch it, then I got to the point where I could throw it and he'd go touch it and come back. Teaching him to pick it up took a bit longer, because he'd take it, I'd click, and he'd drop it again for his treat! Funnily enough, it's the only thing he'll bring back - I can lob anything across the school and he'll go and touch it and come back, but this dog toy is the specific thing he'll fetch. I haven't tried it with anyone else - I used clicker training with Indi for confidence issues, but Kira doesn't NEED any more confidence! But she's smart enough, I reckon she'd learn it too ... mm, given me some ideas ...
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Post by paganamber on Aug 23, 2008 14:01:43 GMT 1
My dog wees on command - have proof, ask bumper, she was amazed. Hubby's horse wees on command in a bucket, and bows and counts. will have to get photos of that one.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2008 16:21:52 GMT 1
Ok, work in progress photos. First, the closest pic I've got to "before": typical Flossie stance, nervous, ready to hoof it, holding it - just - because I'd trained her too but would rather not, thanks, if given the choice: Then, the following 3 are how we're building up. First is just touch the headcollar, then explain about the nose going in (bribery? well in that she could smell the treats on my hand and yes she did get a click and treat when she'd done it), then coming head against the headcollar, no bribery. I know the 2nd one maybe looks better in that her nose is actually through it, but the head position on the 3rd is just amazing for her. And this was when she was a bit worried about the 2nd person in the field - you can see her ear on George. Take a bow, Floss...
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Post by colourfulpony on Aug 23, 2008 18:10:49 GMT 1
My dog wees on command - quote] mine too! we taught it her as a puppy in order to house train her. rosie is trying to create her own trick, she is convinced that she can climb into the wheely bin at the yard! somehow i doubt a 15hh cob would ever fit in there, especially without tipping it over
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Post by geeup on Aug 23, 2008 19:40:35 GMT 1
my duaghter taught her pony to knock our wheelbarrow over on voice command just as I am trying to fill it! Th epony did it by accident (I'd like to think the first time) and she started to out a voice command to it, then the pony did it everyitme to a voice command. She just uses the same expression to tell the pony shes good all the time, when riding she uses the expression ans accompnies it with a rub of the withers. She taught pony to open the stable door towards her and push it away by the same method.
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Post by fin on Aug 23, 2008 21:03:02 GMT 1
Oh, Lord. Is it a Welshie by any chance? Maybe a relative of H's???
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