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Post by Geordie Horse on Dec 30, 2007 14:26:43 GMT 1
Anyone know how to get hold of one of these? I've tried the local IH one a couple of times, but I think she must be full or not taking lessons at the mo. So in my desperation, I will try Parelli Anyone got any contact details for someone in Kent?
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Post by dashequestrian on Dec 30, 2007 14:31:13 GMT 1
From the Parelli website:
Lyla Cansfield Instructor 3 lcansfield@parelli.com lylacansfield.instructor.parelli.com +44 (0) 798 930 4976 Mill Hill London Alison Jones Instructor 3 ajones@alison-jones.net alisonjones.instructor.parelli.com +44 (0) 7977 048 283 Tiverton Devon Victoria Crofton-Wadham Instructor 2 info@croftonwadham.com victoriacroftonwadham.instructor.parelli.com +44 (0)1267 202 356
Rachael Morland Instructor 2 rachaelmorland@yahoo.co.uk rachaelmorland.instructor.parelli.com 07917 443 288 Ilkeston Derbyshire, DE7 5GZ
Not many in the UK, but know they do cover quite large areas
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Post by dashequestrian on Dec 30, 2007 14:48:27 GMT 1
Anyone able to point me in the direction of the list of RA's? I've come from a Parelli background but am interested in exploring all areas of natural horsemanship, would be interested to know if there are any in my area
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Post by rummi on Dec 30, 2007 14:54:04 GMT 1
List of RA's:
Go to main IHDG page, top right hand corner, click on 'Horse help' link. List of RA's is the first option
Hope that helps
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Post by dashequestrian on Dec 30, 2007 14:57:02 GMT 1
Many thanks - off to have a look now
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Post by Geordie Horse on Dec 31, 2007 1:21:16 GMT 1
Oh dear No one local to me then Looks like its gonna have to be the bad old BHS again!!
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Post by jen1 on Dec 31, 2007 2:13:40 GMT 1
have a look on the silversands webite, karen fitzpatrick is in your area,(kent) silversands is very much like parelli , might be worth getting intouch with kas,
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Post by marianne on Dec 31, 2007 7:18:47 GMT 1
Just wanted to say there are 4 RAs in Surrey, and if you can find anyone near you (or a fellow livery) who's interested in help with their horse, it cuts the travel bill considerably ...
Going "back" to BHS seems sad to me ... what if they advise you to hit the horse if he's not listening to you? Will you follow that advice?
[runs for cover ...]
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Post by Geordie Horse on Dec 31, 2007 10:13:42 GMT 1
what if they advise you to hit the horse if he's not listening to you? Will you follow that advice? [runs for cover ...] Absolutely not!! This is the thing that I really want to avoid. I did some groundwork with Bertie the other day and he was a bit of a nightmare-kept stopping to graze My whip was in the car (I keep it as I have BHS lessons at a school still and I suppose its a case of their horses, their rules) anyway, in my frustration, I realised how easy it would be to resort to the whip-I didn't, but it just demonstrated to me the ease with which we are taught that its an 'aid' I'm re-reading 'Perfect Manners' and starting from scratch, but it would be nice to have back up rather than purely relying on a book-albeit an excellent one!! Jen I'll try Silversands-I'm extremely open-minded to all alternatives-except ones that involve violence. I do have the occasional quip on here about Parelli, but most of their stuff seems effective and positive
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Post by sarahfox on Dec 31, 2007 10:30:47 GMT 1
Just to say BnB,if you do parelli they use increasing levels of pressure,I would suggest that before you get to the last stage,use your brain and do something IH instead!Otherwise you are effectively just beating up your horse. ( puts tin hat on and hides under sofa...)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2007 10:34:51 GMT 1
Is it Suzanne you've been trying, BnB? If so, she's been travelling a bit recently so may be why you've not managed to get in touch with her. My suggestion would be to call the IH office, explain what you need and ask if they can get someone to call you.
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Post by Geordie Horse on Dec 31, 2007 10:42:16 GMT 1
Spooky!!! Yes Liz, it is-will give them a call Sarah-I love the confidence you have in me-the last stage??? Are you mad??? I'm such a Nelly that I'm likely to be a thousand years old by then ;D ;D ;D But, no-there are some elements of Parelli that I disagree with-but I find them more palatable than BHS
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Post by dashequestrian on Dec 31, 2007 11:09:15 GMT 1
Just to say BnB,if you do parelli they use increasing levels of pressure,I would suggest that before you get to the last stage,use your brain and do something IH instead!Otherwise you are effectively just beating up your horse. ( puts tin hat on and hides under sofa...) Sarah, I completely agree with you, this is one of the things I hate about Parelli, ok if you have a horse that will move from fairly small amounts of pressure, but we all know horses that won't (I had one!) However I must say I was very pleasantly surprised when we got an instructor to work with our big boy (he wasn't going to yield to pressure for anything and there was no way I was going to up the pressure to make him - couldn't even if i had wanted to!) Instructor went up the phases with him but her higher phases were not strong. He predictably did nothing, just stood there, so she gave him a minute to think then repeated the phases over again. Kept doing this a few times (never getting harsh) and it was like a lightbulb went off in my boys head and he stepped back at the lightest pressure . At no point did my boy get angry, scared or dominant, just had his ears forward and a pretty bemused expression on his face . Have seen Parelli people do the opposite and just get harsher and harsher until the horse is forced to yield, but was great to see the phases used in a more intelligent way.
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Post by jen1 on Dec 31, 2007 13:04:15 GMT 1
BnB there one or 2 folk on here who have attended the clinics, i went to one in june, with steve half penny it was ace, learnt lots of stuff it isnt quite parelli its softer more quiet, i cant say if kas is an instructor or not, but i think she is the hub of the siversands for your area,
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Post by sarahfox on Dec 31, 2007 13:20:59 GMT 1
Sorry BnB,I meant the pressure stages,ie; when you are getting a horse to step back from a vibration of the rope,stage 1 is a teeny vbration,then stage 2 a bit more,there are 4 stages of pressure,and some instructors use stage 4 as very harsh,ie in this scenario the clip would be whacking the horse under the chin,and they wouldnt stop until they got the result they wanted. Im just saying be careful before you reach that level of pressure and try and work your way through.
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