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Post by smonebull on Dec 28, 2006 21:41:58 GMT 1
Hi, I'm looking for help and Suggestions for breeding a Stallion.
I have an Andalusian Stallion who has been used for breeding in Spain. I didnt really buy him specifically to breed but recently I've had quite a few people ask if they can breed their mares with him. He is booked in for a Health certificate and swabs in January and the mares are swabbed too. I have spoken to the ex owners about how they bred the Stallion but really wanted some advice from your experiences.
Is it best to cover with boots on the mare? Should I use a particular bridle on the Stallion? the old owners used a snaffle and lunge line as he is very docile.
How many times should a mare be covered? and any other advice you can give would be fantastic!!!
I will be asking the Vet and researching breeding but Sometimes its good to hear lots of opinions and get some really good ideas/warnings/and tips.
So thanks!!
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Post by andalusianlover on Dec 28, 2006 21:56:15 GMT 1
i have a pre stallion too what bloodlines is yours? and where in spain is he from? very interested as people are asking about mine too
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Post by janetgeorge on Dec 28, 2006 22:24:58 GMT 1
Is it best to cover with boots on the mare? Should I use a particular bridle on the Stallion? the old owners used a snaffle and lunge line as he is very docile. How many times should a mare be covered? and any other advice you can give would be fantastic!!! I will be asking the Vet and researching breeding but Sometimes its good to hear lots of opinions and get some really good ideas/warnings/and tips. Heavens - I could write a book on this subject. Mares should ALWAYS wear boots AND tail bandages (enclosing the entire tail.) Of course it goes without saying (I hope) that they must NOT be wearing hind shoes. I favour a Chifney with a longer than normal lead - but a lunge line is a bit TOO long - you have your hands pretty full without juggling too many loops of line. You, of course, should wear hard hat - as should the person handling the mare. Mares are normally covered 2 - 3 times; once the first time they'll stand, then every second day until they go out of season. (Say, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. ) Lots of teasing is the key to success - and it's well worth setting up a safe trying area with a trying bar or wall - needs to be 4 foot tall and SOLID (some mares say 'no thank you' with both barrels!!) Trying and covering mares is - frankly - dangerous work. If you haven't done it before, you should try to arrange to spend a couple of days (at LEAST!) at a stud (or several studs) when they're covering mares.
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Post by smonebull on Dec 28, 2006 22:41:08 GMT 1
Thanks Janet!!
some great advice there! we have a teasing wall made up of stacked railway sleepers. My Stallion is also valuable in that he is my best friend so his well being is of utmost importance.
The bloodlines of my Stallion are 75 percent Bocado. Salvatierre and Romero Benitez breeding. You can see him in the stud book under Cantinero XXIV. How about yours?
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Post by smonebull on Dec 28, 2006 22:57:52 GMT 1
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Post by janetgeorge on Dec 28, 2006 23:08:15 GMT 1
My chaps are both Registered Irish Draughts - Lady's Tralee Raj - He's just over 17 hh and built like the proverbial tank! And our new boy - Kensons Aragorn - - who is quite a little chap (16.2) - now 18 - but still very active. He's trained to Advanced Medium, still in Medium points and I hope to get hoim out competing in the New Year
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Post by andalusianlover on Dec 28, 2006 23:14:42 GMT 1
his name is TEMPRANO. he is a SALVADOR CORTES GARCIA .Sire is BRIOSO XIII Dam is INCA IV and has only just come over from spain in nov. this year. he was one of the show dancing stallions and is the nicest, kindest, sweet natured horses ever. he is the best horse i have ever had.
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Post by azura on Dec 29, 2006 0:02:53 GMT 1
hi, when covering in hand we always put boots on and a tail bandage, as already been said. As you get more experience with mares coming into season, you will notice that a mare truely in season will have a specific smell when she shows to the stallion, and this can work well for an early indication that a mare needs teasing. We also cover on the first day and then every other day. As for bridles it really does depend on your stallion, my stallion is happy in his headcollar and a long leadrein. As said always wear hard hats and make the stallion approach from the side, make him wait until he is fully ready and let him nozzle the mare before guiding him back to mount. Please be aware you may need to HELP HIM!!!!. And there is a good chance of you getting coated in****** and wee!!. HAVE FUN
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Post by felicia on Dec 29, 2006 19:22:55 GMT 1
I don't want to rain on your parades but are both your stallions registered with Bapsh? If not, you will have trouble getting covering certificates and the progeny will not be registerable without an enormous amount of difficulty, even as partbreds. The Association is the daughter stud book of Spain. The details are on www.bapsh.co.uk. Your horses will have to be checked by a vet, microchips verified etc as there are plenty of imported horses who are not who they are supposed to be! Causes no end of problems with the parentage DNA typing of any offspring.
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Post by andalusianlover on Dec 29, 2006 20:32:06 GMT 1
My stallion is spanish stud book reg and bapsh so i am all ok there
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Post by smonebull on Dec 29, 2006 22:08:34 GMT 1
thanks for the heads up Felicia but mine is all Identified, has a green breeding card, is registered and is being health certificated on Tuesday. I even had the Government State Vet come to my yard and check all the paperwork because of the illegally imported horses you mentioned.
Janet...I love your horses!!!! wow they are HUGE!
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Post by andalusianlover on Dec 29, 2006 23:51:39 GMT 1
did you have any pictures
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Post by smonebull on Dec 30, 2006 14:50:48 GMT 1
i've only had him two weeks so not many pics i'm afraid
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Post by felicia on Dec 30, 2006 16:39:22 GMT 1
Hi Smonebull,
I know I'm harping on about this but have you completed the Transfer of Ownership form which is downloadable from the Bapsh site? The Import Registration Application Form has to be completed by your vet - that form is obtainable from the registrar. These HAVE to be done. I don't want to be a pain but your chap has nice breeding and it would be a shame if you weren't able to register his stock because the paperwork wasn't correct.
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Post by smonebull on Dec 30, 2006 17:20:44 GMT 1
Hi Felicia,
yes its all complete and sent to mary mcBryde, the vet is coming Tuesday to read his chip and identify him, and stamp the identification form. Dont worry Felicia I have done this many times before...a long process I know but well worth it in the end! I have two other Andalusians that I have registered, i went to the breed show with them last year. Hopefully he should get his new passport through for the breeding season *crosses fingers*
Thanks for all your help and advice!
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