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Post by lizpurlo on Nov 24, 2014 21:02:06 GMT 1
Just out of interest, you science bods, - our water here (private supply) is high in copper, I'm told. There are blue marks on the wash basins where it comes out the tap. Is that sufficient to make up for any shortfall? And would the soil be lacking copper if it's in the rainwater?
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Post by janwilky on Nov 24, 2014 23:48:38 GMT 1
Just out of interest, you science bods, - our water here (private supply) is high in copper, I'm told. There are blue marks on the wash basins where it comes out the tap. Is that sufficient to make up for any shortfall? And would the soil be lacking copper if it's in the rainwater? Hmm, not sure Liz. The copper levels in the water are likely to be a reflection of what's in the rocks/soil which the water has filtered through. That may or may not be picked up by the grass growing on the surface depending on lots of factors (for example the rainwater could percolate through a copper-rich seam which is way below the level of plant roots). There's also the question of the interaction between different minerals; for example the balance between copper and zinc could be out of kilter if only copper has raised levels. You could even potentially have copper deficiencies if something like iron or manganese is way out of whack, so it's probably not as simple as it at first appears. The only way to know for sure would be to have the grass tested for mineral levels, which Forageplus can do.
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Post by lesleyking1 on Nov 26, 2014 21:28:54 GMT 1
I got the feed company in today to do a yard visit, so handy to get us all weighed and checked, she checked diet and condition of Scarlet and was very satisfied and assured me that her condition was excellent, she felt that as the spots where seasonal and not typical first signs of copper deficiency and I should rule it out, so great, saved a fortune on tests and supplements. Like the rep said if fed recommended levels of feed it's all calculated so that the levels are right. I'm just pondering, has anyone put there horse on something and had a negative reaction?
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Post by Pony-Nutt on Nov 27, 2014 9:21:45 GMT 1
Just out of interest, you science bods, - our water here (private supply) is high in copper, I'm told. There are blue marks on the wash basins where it comes out the tap. Is that sufficient to make up for any shortfall? And would the soil be lacking copper if it's in the rainwater? Hmm, not sure Liz. The copper levels in the water are likely to be a reflection of what's in the rocks/soil which the water has filtered through. That may or may not be picked up by the grass growing on the surface depending on lots of factors (for example the rainwater could percolate through a copper-rich seam which is way below the level of plant roots). There's also the question of the interaction between different minerals; for example the balance between copper and zinc could be out of kilter if only copper has raised levels. You could even potentially have copper deficiencies if something like iron or manganese is way out of whack, so it's probably not as simple as it at first appears. The only way to know for sure would be to have the grass tested for mineral levels, which Forageplus can do. We had the same thing at our last place. The blue green deposits in the wash basins and the turning bleached hair green. It was not down to having high levels of copper in the water but down to the water being too acidic. The acidic water was corroding the copper pipes. I know this for a fact because we had the grass and water supply analysed by Forageplus. Our water was not high in copper or anything else. We had a ph corrector fitted just inside the house and the green marks in the wash basins went overnight. If this is the case with your water supply you would be well advised to get a ph balancer fitted as not only does it colour your basins, it also rots your boiler.
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Post by gwenoakes on Nov 27, 2014 23:21:13 GMT 1
Quite a few years ago, Clare's TB started to lose the colour round his eyes, in fact he looked like he was wearing white framed glasses. Vet suggested Coppertrition which we duly gave, it did make some of the colour come back, but not all of it.
He didnt lose any colour anywhere else though, just round his eyes/face.
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Post by lesleyking1 on Nov 28, 2014 8:33:27 GMT 1
That's what the feed rep said, colour loss round eyes, that's interesting, nice to know these reps do know what there're talking about
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