madmare1
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Post by madmare1 on Jan 19, 2013 19:00:59 GMT 1
A former friend was after a horse.....and I knew a mare that was up for sale. I had known this mare for many years, and when her former owner gave up breeding Arabs, I wanted to buy her, but couldn't..nowhere to keep her and her price was extortionate. She went to a girl I knew, and who looked after her. When she found out she was pregnant and her Fiance proposed, Claire decided to part with Taz. I told Michelle about Taz, we went to see her, and Michelle bought her....... Then Michelle decided to put Taz into foal....to Cas Ravel. Taz had a lovely dark bay colt..not the typiest, but a pretty boy who will make a really nice best friend, whether he is kept entire or not... and this has happened to Taz www.happa.org.uk/news/rescue-of-taz/I feel so guilty that when I moved yards, I didn't go back to check on her....I could have prevented this, and yet I stood back and just left her there.....I feel soo bloody awful that I left a mare there that I thought was a good home and a home for life, only for this to happen. Foalie is safe, and well looked after with another friend who will absolutely dote on the lad. He'll want for nothing...that I do know. Could I have prevented her falling into this horrendous state.....possibly....feel soo rotten about the whole episode. Emma xx
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Post by june on Jan 19, 2013 19:06:26 GMT 1
Maybe you could have done, maybe you couldn't. The horse is safe now so that's the main thing. The YO should have done something about it though. How people can let a horse get into that state through neglect on their own premises is beyond me.
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Post by rosemaryhannah on Jan 19, 2013 19:08:47 GMT 1
Possibly you could, but you had no reason to believe anything was wrong. One cannot keep tabs on every horse of whom one knows. It is plain from the report that mental ill health was at the root of all this.
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Post by ladyndibs on Jan 19, 2013 19:13:57 GMT 1
OK this may sound hard and if you knew me you'd know I would be feeling exactly the same but you are NOT responsible for the well being of every and any horse you come in contact with.
If you had a crystal ball it wouldn't have happened but you don't, I think a lot of us look back and think 'If only' but I'm sorry to say that there will always be horses that slip through the net for a multitude of reasons, ignorance, lack of money etc. etc. just be glad that she and her foalie are in safe hands now.
If there is blame to put at anyones door it is the actual owner the pretend owner and the yard owner as they were all aware and don't appear to have done anything to rectify the situation.
It's not your fault.
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madmare1
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Post by madmare1 on Jan 19, 2013 19:34:02 GMT 1
Going to ring them on Monday and give them her full history.....at least then she will be known by her full name. She is safe and happy now, and will be till the end of her days, as will her baby.
Emma xx
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Post by jackiedo on Jan 19, 2013 20:02:26 GMT 1
can you please let the owner of CAS RAVEL know this.... I think stallion owners have a duty of care too
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Post by jackiedo on Jan 19, 2013 20:04:27 GMT 1
and can you show this to me as I know that you were concerned when the mare went to stud. Stallion owners have a lot more responsibility than "how are you going to pay?" can I help?
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madmare1
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Post by madmare1 on Jan 19, 2013 20:16:04 GMT 1
have pm'd you on facebook hun.
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Post by jackiedo on Jan 19, 2013 20:29:08 GMT 1
well here we go. This mare was sent to Cas Ravel because my foal (Count Azlan) by him was so nice. I also believe that there was a TB mare sent from the same owner.. what is going on? I am thinking of becoming a hermit
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Post by madmare1 on Jan 19, 2013 20:31:54 GMT 1
not the same owner hun..they were/are friends and decided to send both mares to the same stallion....TB mare is being covered by him again....
Know I am a softie..but I can't help it...especially when I promise to keep an eye on her....and I have so obviously failed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 20:34:53 GMT 1
maybe you could have spotted it and stepped in if you had stayed there, but ultimately as others have said it's not your responsibility. In my eyes the yard owner and/or others on the yard should have stepped in and something done before this animal got to that condition. Having said that though some people will move their horses on if they come under scrutiny or criticism. sad story I notice that the owner was financially and emotionally incapable of caring for the mare, I found myself in a similar situation a couple of years ago, and the kindest and fairest thing was to rehome my two before I couldn't cope as I knew it was going that way due to my own health issues. but you have to be in a place to mentally and logically be able to make that decision and sometimes your brain just shuts down and that's when you need others to step in
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Post by jackiedo on Jan 19, 2013 20:45:05 GMT 1
well I think that gwynneth rees should be made to look at this
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 20:52:15 GMT 1
is it really the stallion owners responsibility to check on the welfare of the mares their stallions cover and their prodigeny? (can't spell it )
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Post by jackiedo on Jan 19, 2013 21:16:20 GMT 1
yes it bloody is running loon. they should do basic checks at least.
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Post by ladyndibs on Jan 19, 2013 21:26:52 GMT 1
yes it bloody is running loon. they should do basic checks at least. I think this would be impossible to police effectively, how long after the birth of a foal would the stallion owner be expected to check up. They have sold the covering or AI in the same way a horse is sold, would that mean that you are still responsible for any horse that you sold?
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