rowanrachel
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Post by rowanrachel on Dec 23, 2012 1:33:53 GMT 1
Hello all!
I have a quick noseband query! Which noseband would you recommend might help for a horse who tries to evade the bit when bored/on the way home etc. she doesn't do it when heading out just once she starts getting bored and fidgety (usually on the way home or when tired). She starts opening her mouth and wiggling her jaw and fidgeting with the bit.
I ride in a myler level one full cheek snaffle with the joint covered. And currently no noseband... Only cos she didn't have one on the bridle.
Thanks
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Post by jill on Dec 23, 2012 8:30:04 GMT 1
Personally I would only ever use a cavesson, at the standard fitting of two fingers room underneath it. If she has issues evading the bit, find out what is missing in her education - is she generally fidgetty on the way home? Covering the symptoms with something like a drop or flash usually means they surface somewhere else!
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Post by elkerlodge on Dec 23, 2012 8:51:04 GMT 1
hi
ive always stuck to the simplist tack possible,
I first port of call is to have her mouth checked, with you saying it happens on the way home make me question is it discomfort,
also chaeck the bit, is it pinching.
please check everything, before going down the line of stronger dits and nosebands
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Post by jen1 on Dec 23, 2012 11:19:08 GMT 1
i agree with the above, and i would just let her play. what she is actually doing is releasing her jaw and getting rid of tension, , you could look into teaching her to open the poll so she wouldnt have to do it herself,
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Post by rifruffian on Dec 23, 2012 12:05:52 GMT 1
noseband; no.
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Post by BJMM on Dec 23, 2012 18:22:59 GMT 1
None of mine have nosebands. IMHO strapping the mouth shutis just masking a mouth issue. I would get her teeth checked and if there are no physical issues I would do what Jen suggests  And I LOATHE the fact that most bridles these days are sold complete with that most hideous of all nosebands - the dreaded flash!! YUK!!! |
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Post by kizi on Dec 23, 2012 20:13:55 GMT 1
Same from me.. I have nose bands on nothing! We took 2 ponies showing once and had to quickly send someone back for nose bands... It hasn't dawned on me they'd need them!
Having tried the grackles and all the rest in the past I now ask why they do what ever it is.. And personally if it was actually purely playing why stop it.. But it's probably a bit of a release of tension as suggested so I'd look from that angle at why she's tense until going home etc.. Is there something that can be changed rather than added!
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Post by jen1 on Dec 24, 2012 12:23:01 GMT 1
have a look on you tube for phillipe karl
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Post by june on Dec 24, 2012 22:45:10 GMT 1
I'm with the others. No nosebands. They just stop the symptoms rather than fixing the cause. Check out what you do on the way home and if it is different from what you do on the way out. Do you have more contact on the way home as the horse gets more forward going? Do you tense up anywhere? Does the horse understand the bit? Does it matter if the horse fiddles with the bit? Horses should move the bit around in their mouth in a relaxed manner. Relaxing the tongue and the mouth relaxes the horse. Clamping the mouth shut means you will not have a relaxed tongue, mouth and horse.
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Post by shan on Dec 26, 2012 11:53:53 GMT 1
I'm with BJMM on this - everyone seems to have a flash these days, and most don't question it they just keep it on because it came with the bridle  |
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Post by madmare1 on Dec 26, 2012 12:04:23 GMT 1
Inaya and Prince just have simple cavesson nosebands, Crystal only wore one for showing..never has one on now for hacking and playing about.
get everything checked and if the problem persists, try working her in a low outline, teach her to go forwards voluntarily in the contact. If it does keep occurring, I would try a flash...temporarily and correctly fitted, just to ask her to concentrate.
Nothng against flash nosebands, they are a fairly useful training aid, but I prefer a simple cavesson, mainly there for decoration anyway!
Emma xx
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rowanrachel
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Post by rowanrachel on Jan 2, 2013 16:25:57 GMT 1
Thanks everyone. The last thing I want to do is mask any underlying problems, I thought it best without a noseband but I asked as I'd read something online about the noseband supporting the jaw and helping the horse be able to relax its jaw onto the nose band so I wondered if there was some positive action to a caveson which I handy been aware of... I'd always thought they didn't do much so had t bothered getting one.
We are very early in our riding education and she's normally a bit more fresh going out new places and slow on the way home or anywhere she's been a few times. So its possible I have less contact on the way home and am a bit bore relaxed. I think she fidgets when she gets bored as she does similar things in hand if we're not keeping things interesting which I try to do.
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Post by Pony-Nutt on Jan 2, 2013 19:27:47 GMT 1
I really like drop nosebands. They definitely help the horse to relax the lower jaw. Fitted correctly they are a great piece of kit |
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