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Post by chatterbox on Dec 7, 2012 23:20:50 GMT 1
Can anyone please offer me any advice. Ive ridden for years and collapse through my right hip. My saddle now keeps slipping to the right and i look like my right stirupp longer than my left but it isnt. Go to the Chiropractor myself regulaly. Have my horses back done and saddle flocking checked too. Nothing seems to help. Any ideas please? Saddler came out last week put a point and balance strap on my saddle and added extra flocking to the right side supposedly to throw the saddle more to the left but it feels worse than ever now. Saddler is comming back Sunday. But reallyh dont know what to do for the best.
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Post by heather on Dec 7, 2012 23:25:22 GMT 1
Any pics, especially from in front or behind? Very often collapsing through the right hip, if not an actual physical problem, is because the opposite leg is weaker, the ankle is often tighter, toe points out, and the lower leg will not lie lightly along the rib cage but will be held further away.
Heather
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Post by chatterbox on Dec 7, 2012 23:31:29 GMT 1
Heather i havnt got a pic like that but will get a couple done and post them. I did see some video footage of me at a dressage comp and my left leg was pointing out or should i say my foot pointsw out. I can get my right leg on no problem and use it alot but struggle with my left leg. I also favour riding right rein just feel uncomfortable and wrong riding left rein. Have had many lessons with differnt instructors but they dont make much of my position
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Post by Amanda Seater on Dec 8, 2012 10:43:15 GMT 1
is this all on the same horse? do you have this same thing when you ride left rein on another horse?
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Post by madmare1 on Dec 8, 2012 11:05:49 GMT 1
Try having some lunge lessons without stirrups or do a lot of no stirrups work to improve your position and balance. I have a weak right leg and have a dressage saddle which sticks you in the correct position an keeps you there. Had it for a fair few years now, and love it....has improved my riding immensely. I also do loads of sitting trot...and on my youngster (see thread couple of pics and a vid) that is hard work! As you know you collapse on the right, make yourself work on the opposite rein....it will get easier.
Emma xx
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Post by kirstiesally on Dec 8, 2012 19:09:14 GMT 1
I to collapse through my left hip one thing which i didnt know until last year due to going for massage is that my left leg is now longer from the hip and when she layed me flat out my hips were twisted therefore making the leg longer we are now doing muscle exercises to retrain my muscles and hips to get them laying right again and although they are only simple exercises i have to work really hard at them and they hurt just goes to show how you live with things without noticing them!
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Post by cassiejane on Dec 9, 2012 16:46:29 GMT 1
Best thing I can suggest is an Alexander technique teacher you may find that the imbalance also happens when you are off the horse! Www.stat.org.uk
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Post by somanyhorses on Dec 9, 2012 19:49:54 GMT 1
cassiejane beat me to it: Alexander Technique !!! And a riding instructor who is on the same wavelength as the AT teacher would help. Where in the country are you? A riding instructor who is local to me is absolutely THE best in helping people with their crookednesses and related issues. She's in Surrey, very close to Gatwick airport.
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Post by lizpurlo on Dec 9, 2012 21:01:52 GMT 1
Yup, I was just going to say Alexander Technique too! It is fabulous; I had an incredible lightbulb moment when riding down the road after having had two or three AT lessons - I suddenly felt my right seatbone in contact with the saddle, and it felt as if the whole right side of my horse had been illuminated. And when I think of how all my poor horses down the years had had to cope with my unknowingly crooked self, I feel really guilty.
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Post by june on Dec 9, 2012 21:38:45 GMT 1
Alexander Technique for me too! However, are you sure it is you that is causing the saddle to shift. Is the horse symmetrical at the shoulders? If a horse has one shoulder a lot bigger than the other they will often throw the saddle over.
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Post by Amanda Seater on Dec 10, 2012 7:37:24 GMT 1
Alexander - Feldenkrais YES . But my question still stands.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 12:12:15 GMT 1
Have you lunged/ long lined with the saddle on? If not try that and see if it stays still without you, then ask someone else to ride and see if it stays still, that'll help you see if it really is you.
If so, I'd recommend a Sports Massage Therapist. I was collapsing through my left hip because one of the muscles under my pelvis was pulling the left side of my pelvis down and forward. Umpteen osteo treatments didn't solve it because they looked at the skeleton/ joints when it was a muscle actually causing it.
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Post by mags on Dec 10, 2012 12:34:23 GMT 1
I'm also stronger through one side than the other. I've taken some Alexander Technique lessons for unrelated reasons (desk job and neck pain), and while they are certainly useful to make you generally more aware about how you hold yourself and move, I've found that the best thing to help me with my one-sidedness on the horse has been to take up regular lessons again. I just need to be reminded (frequently!) to use myself evenly. Habits are really hard to break, and it helps to be reminded. One way is to learn to become more aware yourself (Alexander Technique), but the other is to have good outside help.
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Post by heather on Dec 11, 2012 16:35:35 GMT 1
Have you also checked that stirrup bars on saddle are level? You would be surprised how many are not!
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Post by chatterbox on Dec 12, 2012 22:09:44 GMT 1
Thankyou everyone i will try finding an Alexander Technique Teacher and will try Pilates too. I live in Lincolnshire so will try to find a good one. I have had my saddle reflocked but i think its made it worse as the saddler put more flocking in the right side to try throw saddle back to left when i rode in it but it feels awful now so have to get him back. He also put point and balance straps on it which when girthed on them feels awful too. I have had others ride in the saddle and they find it a bit to the right now too
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