marvin
Grand Prix Poster
Posts: 1,069
|
Post by marvin on Jan 9, 2012 13:19:08 GMT 1
contact the makers and express your concerns, would not mention that you heard about the chemicals from another feed supplier, they may or may not tell you whats in it.
|
|
|
Post by Hannah on Jan 9, 2012 13:30:42 GMT 1
I would not feed fast fibre as it contains garlic. Call the manufacturer and ask about the straw.
|
|
|
Post by donnalex on Jan 9, 2012 14:35:19 GMT 1
I would not feed fast fibre as it contains garlic. Call the manufacturer and ask about the straw. I have emailed them, no response as yet
|
|
|
Post by lilaclomax on Jan 9, 2012 15:19:48 GMT 1
When I called Allen and Page their representative was very helpful and informative and gave me all the answers... the only downside I can see to FF is the garlic
|
|
|
Post by donnalex on Jan 10, 2012 17:37:43 GMT 1
Got a reply today, here it is
Dear Donna,
Thank you for your recent enquiry.
The cereal straw included in Fast Fibre is treated with Sodium Hydroxide. This is a procedure for increasing digestibility of cereal straw and is common practice throughout the feed industry. I have attached some further information on Fast Fibre.
I hope this answers your query. If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Kind regards,
Sarah
Sarah Bee BSc (Hons)
Nutritionist
Allen & Page Ltd,
Norfolk Mill, Shipdham, Norfolk
IP25 7SD
01362 822900
|
|
vab
Grand Prix Poster
Posts: 1,125
|
Post by vab on Jan 10, 2012 22:46:41 GMT 1
I may feed this to my yearling who has OCD and has to go onto a fibre only feed such as hi fi lite or alfa she may like this more than a chaff type feed.
|
|
|
Post by Yann on Jan 11, 2012 8:04:04 GMT 1
If I'm not mistaken one of the common mould inhibitors used on cereals and presumably chaffs too is propionic acid. This is found naturally and has many of the same nutritional characteristics of acetic acid, or vinegar, which it closely resembles chemically, so I rather suspect scaremongering too.
I think the oil and mollasses / mollasses extract coatings are there purely as a dust reducer rather than anything else, without it chaff can be really dusty and unpleasant to handle in any quantity.
|
|
calekio
Grand Prix Poster
Posts: 1,235
|
Post by calekio on Jan 11, 2012 8:30:12 GMT 1
May lives on it! As a chronic laminitic, EMS & cushings i'm so parinoid by what i feed her.. we couldn't get her laminitis under control when she was fed happy hoof/healthy hooves, switched to fast fibre and she's been better... i did try adding allen & page L mix to her diet... and again she started to slip... but at same time was diagnosed with cushings so...
Locket also lives on fast fibre & soaked L mix, he has a svere undershot jaw and struggles with chaffs and does so well on fast fibre & L mix, looking very plump this winter. Oddly enough i tried just putting the L mix in unsoaked and poor little devil struggled to eat it...
|
|
|
Post by donnalex on Jan 11, 2012 9:33:24 GMT 1
Interesting Yann on the 'chemic' bit and a little reassuring. It is a little pellet that is fed soaked so no dust stoppers needed. I think a few of the additives are there purely to make it edible to fussy ponies. Getting them to eat staw or any other feed that is bulk with nothing nice in it is not easy and they positively wolf it down, Im using it as a carrier to get the minerals down them as advised by Forageplus which dont taste nice at all Now we need a science person to enlighten us. Anyone?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2012 13:32:32 GMT 1
Cranking my brains back to A level chemistry... if you mix Sodium Hydroxide and Hydrochloric acid you get water and sodium choride. Sodium chloride is table salt. Hydrochloric acid is what the stomach produces. So in theory it could be good for ulcers sufferers though I'd imagine the quantity is too small to make much difference.
|
|
|
Post by donnalex on Jan 11, 2012 13:38:24 GMT 1
You sound very brainy Michelle The BHF rep said that the 'treated' staw was treated with soda to make it swell up super quick, thats why its ready in less than a minute apparently. So michelle with the brain is soda and what you are saying the same thing? Me thinks I should have been a better student at school!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2012 13:48:30 GMT 1
As far as I'm aware "soda" is a generic term used for carbonated drinks, which have carbon dioxide added to amke them fizzy, presumably he doesn't mean that!
Baking soda is sodium bicarbonate, which when mixed with acid (I think) will also prduce water, salt and carbon dioxide, so yes I think that would basically behave the same.
MTA: I'd sound less intelligent if you could hear the cogs whirring and clunking trying to remember this stuff!!
|
|
|
Post by donnalex on Jan 11, 2012 16:48:06 GMT 1
Haha at least you have some cogs to whir! Would sodium hydroxide help with the swelling up quickly? I think, on balance, I will stick with the stuff anyway, ponies love it and so do I, no more forgotten to soak sugar beet or frozen sugar beet to think about and it wont go off in the summer either
|
|
amber
Grand Prix Poster
Posts: 1,661
|
Post by amber on Jan 11, 2012 17:17:59 GMT 1
I'm happy to be on it too... !
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2012 19:52:14 GMT 1
Well it wouldn't put me off feeding it.
|
|