Trouble
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Post by Trouble on Dec 27, 2009 22:06:03 GMT 1
No, everyone that has ever ridden him, apart from me and one of my friends, has fallen off.
The one friend that did ride him successfully is my friend who has worked with eventers for years and she looked after him for 2 weeks last summer, whilst I was on holiday. Last summer he was perfect, hacking alone or with others, schooling, jumping, everything. She had a good ride every day.
Edited to add...the way he is in those videos is not nearly as bad as he was at his worst....today was not even unseating, when he wants you off, he won't stop until you're off.
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Post by stablehand on Dec 27, 2009 22:14:04 GMT 1
Oh ulcers are really not good, i've also got a horse had problems with them now not covered by insurence and cannot afford to have him on gastro gard so the best i've come up with in the matience dose of omeprazol from this company www.equine.omeprazoledirect.com/ and also have him on protexin 'gut balencer' i can alter dose of both slightly when he travels or has a stressy time. And do all the othere things i can hay ad lib, lots of turn out etc. Every horse is very different so other things might work better but it helps to know what works for some
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Post by Louise C on Dec 27, 2009 22:16:47 GMT 1
Oh no Trouble - we hoped it would have an impact didn't we putting him on the GGnormal dose - sorry to hear it hasn't - but he really doesn't look happy does he?
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Post by Trouble on Dec 27, 2009 22:18:19 GMT 1
Stablehand you are my new favourite person!! Thankyouthankyouthankyou! I've been desperately trying to find a more affordable way of getting Omeprazole!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2009 22:19:52 GMT 1
oh trouble I am gutted to hear this, I hope you manage to get it sorted, poor snip and poor you :<
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Post by stablehand on Dec 27, 2009 22:28:45 GMT 1
Just hope it helps soe one else too :-)
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Post by jennyb on Dec 27, 2009 22:39:47 GMT 1
I'd be really interested to hear if you find those Omeprazole granules effective. It would be great if so, as you say, they are so affordable!!
He does not look happy at all. I presume saddle & back checks are all up to date and fine, and have had second opinions? But yes, it's wise to assume ulcers again if the behaviour fits the last diagnosis. If I were you, I would be putting my foot down very firmly with the vet and demanding to know why this keeps happening so badly with this horse. Is he on any other feed supplement to soothe his stomach or reduce acids?
PS that's not a rear, Gazdag says he will give Snip proper rearing lessons, lol! Except he goes too high and the one time he did it with me on board, he fell over backwards. He can balance well with no rider on though, lol! Apparently it's more impressive if one waves one's front legs, Black Beauty style. Or you can squat on your haunches and tuck your front leggies up nicely and do a pesade. We are going through the whole repertoire this winter, you are not alone on that front!
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Post by Trouble on Dec 27, 2009 22:49:06 GMT 1
Lol...trust me that's not his best rear at all! We've not even had a hint of a rear for months, until today....so I think he is out of practise! Snip has never yet gone over backwards, but it's a habit i need to stop because I really don't want it to get to the point of going over backwards!
Saddle/back and teeth are all done regularly and are very up to date, yep. He's on various herbal supplements to try and prevent the ulcers, but obviously not worked.
The vet has been so helpful, not sure that demanding answers will get me anywhere, they've tried so many things, and been so open and willing to try all sorts of alternative therapies.
Going to talk to them about the Omeprazole granules, last time I spoke to them they said if I found a more affordable way of buying it, to do it through them so they could be sure of what he's getting, but that they'd purchase off the internet and sell on to me at cost price. Will ask them what they think of the granule format.
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Post by jennyb on Dec 27, 2009 23:04:05 GMT 1
Have you looked into homeopathy at all? I have just had Gazdag on Ruta Grav for a week out of desparation to try to get this blasted ligament healed, he was still 1/10 lame on the right rein when the vet came a few weeks ago. Fingers tightly crossed, but he appears to be sound now... I'm quite surprised!
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Post by Trouble on Dec 27, 2009 23:23:18 GMT 1
Yup, I regularly have Leanne Wrentmore out for a bowen session, and she also does aromatherapy and homeopathy, and have had Dena Schwartz out to see him too. As a basis of comparison...this video was taken earlier this year after 2 or 3 weeks on full dose of Gastrogard, shortly after this he was scoped as clear of ulcers, but had definitely been scoped as having grade 2, with some 3's, the 3 weeks (or hoever long it was) before that. So technically, this video was taken when he was damn near fully recovered... www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgC9RYkUVSk
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Post by portiabuzz on Dec 27, 2009 23:35:31 GMT 1
oh no....so sorry to hear this...xxx
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Post by tamzin on Dec 28, 2009 4:45:00 GMT 1
oh dear even on that last video he doesnt look very happy. Had a horse go over backwards and it was an experience I will never forget. My body ended up black from the bruises. Luckily neither of us where really hurt.
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Post by heather on Dec 28, 2009 10:02:02 GMT 1
Stablehand, thank you so much for this cheaper source of omeprazole!! I have long thought Gastroguard such a dreadful rip off, for something which is a generic drug, and not a proprietory brand. Even though my insurance company paid for treatment of my Lusitano, I hated to see them having to shell out such enormous sums- he was on GG for 11 months, although only 1/3rd syringe for 10 months, but even so, £11 a day!- when I knew there must be a cheaper source!
My horse still suffers from an acid hind gut- has developed an allergy to hay, and has to have haylage, which makes him squitty, even the best and driest stuff, so our referral vet said to put him on Settlex which he has found to be the best stuff. But at nearly 40 quid a month, I would be as well to put him on the Omeprazole granules, and know that he is getting what has worked before.
Trouble, so sorry to hear about Snip, you have been through so much with that horse, seems so unfair to be back to square one with him. Do hope that he improves again soon.
Heather
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Post by Trouble on Dec 28, 2009 11:13:44 GMT 1
Nope - I refuse to call this square one! This time last year he wasn't telling me, he was flooring me....this year he is telling me. He is no longer the stressed, dangerous to handle horse that he once was, he is an angel to handle, he is affectionate, he loves his routine and is mostly happy in life, until ridden.
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Post by Lisa in Plymouth on Dec 28, 2009 11:24:48 GMT 1
Sorry to hear that Snip's not too happy at the moment. I've followed your previous threads and have to say that he is lucky to have such a dedicated owner. He is a beautiful horse and I hope you're able to get him sorted.
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