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Post by izzy on Dec 21, 2009 19:55:33 GMT 1
my 3yo nf is so naughty i spend all my time away from field worrying about what ill find when i goto field next day.
he stripped the tarpaulin of the straw and bedded down part of the field , tried climbing through the perimeter fence etc etc
Saturday he had taken 2 lots of electric fencing down including posts some of which are hidden in the deep snow
Today he was in the field next door had gone through plain wire fence all because they had haylage and he only has hay.
i am seriously debating sellimg him as he causing me so many problems and putting my other horses at risk.
Help and advice appreciated
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Post by highlanderpony2002 on Dec 21, 2009 20:14:09 GMT 1
my foal is just the same she reduced me to tears not an easy thing to do as she went through the fences 40 times in one afternoon so I took it all down and put it into the base of the hedge. Now the YM is moaning as there is no strip to cut the hedge totally unreasonable as it is cut once a year and was done three weeks ago
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Post by varkie on Dec 21, 2009 20:15:22 GMT 1
What others horses is he turned out with?
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Post by highlanderpony2002 on Dec 21, 2009 20:36:54 GMT 1
mine is out with a young connemara and was escaping towards a shetland gelding Now all three are in together now as we cant keep the fences up either the shetland or the highland foal just walk through them there coats are so thick the literally just walk through dont want to clip her and not sure the shetties owner would like me to clip hers either So can only suggest if yours is doing the same clip a small patch where his legs touch the fence and electrifying it well or use the high posts and clip where his head touches it not too much or he will get cold
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Post by big e on Dec 21, 2009 20:41:09 GMT 1
Walking through fencing, that sounds familar If your electric fencing is all covered in ice like mine it takes a lot of the zap out so they hardly feel a thing. you could try charging your battery and attach it to the plain wire as well as the tape. You could try putting something in the field with him like a football so he can play with it to try to distract him from the tarpulin and digging all your straw out. My lot just swing on each other rugs for entertainment Hopefully he will get better once the snow has gone.
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Post by izzy on Dec 21, 2009 22:14:23 GMT 1
Varkie- he is out with my Arab mare who certainly doesnt lower herself to playing,2 minis who dont play with him either i think this is the problem he is sooooooooo bored.He has footballs tyres poles pieces of wood salt licks etc but just intent on causing trouble.I had started lungin him in very large circles for a few mins twice a week to break his boredom as well as walking out but the weather has put pay to that.
Big e if he swung on Izzys rug she would be through the fence bless in fear.Have put new electric up today battery fully charged on 12hr night so fungers crossed all well in the morning.
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Post by big e on Dec 21, 2009 22:20:48 GMT 1
Good luck. I do understand your worry of your herd disappearing though. My lot went for a 2 mile walk when Herbie walked through the tape and took it all down. Of course if they end up near my field , finders keepers
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Post by hch4971 on Dec 21, 2009 22:30:17 GMT 1
We have a yearling colt who is turned out with his yearling brother, another yearling, 2 more youngsters and another 8 mixed horses and ponies. He will NOT stay in his field. He takes himself off to say hello to all the other liveries horses in adjoining fields, climbs through barbed wire, ignores electric fences, barges post and rail or jumps in between if there is enough space. We've resorted to bringing him in at night (with a gate infront of his stable door or he will push it open ), first time we did this we turned him out into the school in the morning with his two stable mates and he jumped the fence. The last three days he has stayed put so fingers crossed he has finally got the message that the liveries don't like him! BUT the night before the last three days he was left out because he had done a runner and got cold so I suspect he is making sure he is there to be brought in on a night whilst its so chilly! Our yard owner gets constant complaints about him being in other liveries fields, I was seriously considering having him PTS at one point as the liveries were complaining constantly and him being a danger to himself, but YO talked me out of this and said it really isn't a problem for them. They have had ponies in the past that were the same so understand luckily, but it is frightening.
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Post by izzy on Dec 21, 2009 22:31:54 GMT 1
My yo hadnt even noticed he was in a different field
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Post by shelley2 on Dec 21, 2009 22:38:33 GMT 1
hi its awful when they do this to you i think of few of us have been there i also used to feel ssssssoooooooooo guilty and so helpless i used to stand there saying i am really sorry over and over again and yes i was in tears too so big big hug to you can i suggest trying the thin poly wire on the top? i know some people dont like it but my boy discovered with his winter coat on he could walk straight through the fence as he didnt feel it with the thin wire it divides the think coat and gets to the skin, he never ever went through it with the wire on
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Post by izzy on Dec 22, 2009 0:11:42 GMT 1
I have 500m of poly wire on order to redo perimeter fence with guess its stuck in xmas post.thankfully only 1 acre field to do so not too time consuming
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Post by bramblesmum on Dec 22, 2009 7:56:16 GMT 1
My new forest was much the same as a filly, I can tell you she no longer drives me up the wall with her antics, though she is still very cheeky. The only way I managed to keep mine where she was supposed to be was wooden stakes (not the plastic poly sticks as she would pull them up with her teeth : and four lines of leccy, trust me once that is in place they stop trying so hard. Mine would do as yours is in a herd environment, she just liked to cause mischief bless her and used to have the YO chasing her all around which made the game sooooo much more fun! As a 7yr old she now resigns herself to playing with things within her turnout area, e.g we have barrels we drive around (huge things) apparently they are 100% better than footballs! That pony personality will tame a bit but ends up being why you love them
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Post by ladynowak on Dec 22, 2009 10:32:58 GMT 1
So he isn't being naughty, he is just bored. What work does he get on a daily basis? To be honest if he doesn't have someone his own age to play with, perhaps it would be better selling him or alternatively getting him a friend to play with. I do appreciate the problem, I have a lovely little coblet who at the age of 14 still hasn't grown out of wanting to play with everyone and everything when he is turned out. He always has company and is turned out in such a huge field that he can play to his hearts content. If he was turned out in a wee paddock, he would be bored to tears and would probably be doing exactly what your 3YO is doing now. Bramblesmum's suggestion about the fencing is spot on, I am afraid that once you have bored pony who knows how to get out, that is the best way to keep them in!! How often do you go up? I would have thought that doing lots of groundwork, going out for 'hacks' etc might give him something else to think about. Especially now that it wont be long before the evenings will be getting lighter, it would probably do him good to doing something twice a day.
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Post by highlanderpony2002 on Dec 22, 2009 11:36:08 GMT 1
sorry but I find that rather rude My youngser had playmate plenty to eat cannot do groundwork as she is only 5 months old and she looks at me as if to say I do this because I can not for any other reason. I spend loads of time keeping her entertained and doing as much with her as possible she goes for walks etc she ust likes to roam and her small paddock is three acres so not tiny by any means. Good sharp fencing is the answer but they dont feel most of it through three layers of native fur the only way to make them feel it is to clip a bit off a bit mean in this weather dont you think
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Post by gem on Dec 22, 2009 13:39:31 GMT 1
Diesel used to jump out on regular occasions - they dont do it to be naughty - they do it because its fun and because they can; ultimately we can fill their small paddocks with toys etc but its not the same as a herd roaming over hundreds of acres and then having to fight to survive so its no wonder they fill their time amusing themselves in ways which we find a bit "stressful" I didnt really cure diesel but I did move to a yard with better fencing so that he was safe; he still jumps out occasionally when he's bored but he has a playmate who he really plays with so *touch wood* he is staying in his field - he's 3 1/2 now and seems to be growing out of it
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