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Post by portiabuzz on Dec 20, 2009 2:23:49 GMT 1
just read article in horsey mag (forget which one) about new inexperienced owner struggling as her horse was very bolshy and she couldn't control him...so she was left with no confidence... So she describes how some other livery's helped her and their solution was to put metal chain lead rope around his nose when leading / dealing with him (lower then where the dually sits) and to 'not let him get away with pushing her around....' Is it just me thats not comfortable with this?  |
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Post by ashleigh on Dec 20, 2009 10:05:24 GMT 1
Well no, it's not ideal. However, not everyone has heard of a Dually, or knows about the benefits of groundwork. I am sure if the owner was offered a better solution then she would take it. But pushy horses on the ground not only cause a potential safety risk, but can also really sap your confidence.
People getting hurt isn't an ideal scenario either, and maybe now she might start looking for different methods to add to her toolbox.
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Post by Mellymoo on Dec 20, 2009 16:15:26 GMT 1
I would not use the chain as a first line of attack, but I can see why she would go down that route. Jos is a bolshy git at times, and we have gone down the leadrope round the nose route. The next resort was a chiffney, which I really did not want to use, and thankfully haven't had to. I seem to have a pony that is immune to any sort of controller headcollar (dually, NH halter, Be Nice halter), so I have had to be creative!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2009 16:18:44 GMT 1
it's not the first time I've heard of that as a solution, and I've seen it used as well.
Not the best solution the mag could have offered to be honest. quick fix that wont' really work long term
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Post by jennyb on Dec 20, 2009 17:30:52 GMT 1
Chain used by an inexperienced owner is not ideal. I have no problem with people using a stallion chain if necessary, I have used one myself on my late-gelded horse for a few months to keep us both safe. However, I am experienced and was shown how to use it properly by an ex-Cadre Noir rider. My horse hates the dually but is perfectly happy with a stallion chain, go figure...
I do feel that if you are going to use something like a stallion chain, or indeed a dually (which let's face it, can be pretty harsh if the handler is not careful) then you need to be shown what to do and have a good sense of timing and body language.
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Post by anastasia55555 on Dec 20, 2009 19:25:05 GMT 1
i think its called a chain shank, tis often used on racehorses. is used over the nose like you described, also over the tongue and most severely over the top gums :-(
not very nice! found out about it when looking at restraint devices in thoroughbred breeding.
As they are also used on the stallions in mating as well as leading, they may also use them on 'awkward' mares (btw thats not what i would call them, is more likely they are not ready to be mated etc etc)
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Post by portiabuzz on Dec 21, 2009 13:28:24 GMT 1
thanks for your replies...i just thought not a great message to put across...the problem is when any tool is used in inexperienced hands pain and injury can be called without solving the issue?
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Post by portiabuzz on Dec 24, 2009 13:39:55 GMT 1
just had a look in one of richard maxwells books and he uses the same method for stallions....? Not read it though just saw pics
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