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Post by taklishim on Nov 3, 2009 19:01:04 GMT 1
I also cannot believe the negativity that we have received over saving this horse, but thanks so much to those of you who feel, as I still do, that I did the right thing! I also cannot believe the negativity. Truly beyond belief. Would people have moaned if you hadn't taken all possible action to save it? You did the best that you could do. I'm sure the horse will have a happier day tomorrow. Well done to everyone.
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Post by heather on Nov 3, 2009 19:35:41 GMT 1
Katharine, rest assured we will be awaiting news eagerly, eh, folks? ;D
Heather
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Post by thegaffer on Nov 3, 2009 20:05:12 GMT 1
Hi Katharine,
I have been following the story of Woody on another Forum, and have posted twice stating that I think you have done the very best for Woody. I too have been truly shocked by some of the comments. No-one unless they have been in a similar situation can possibly understand the stress you must have been under.
It is always easier to pass judgment if you are not involved, being put in danger, have endless monetary resources.
I take my hat off to you, Heather, Monty and especially his new owner. This wasn't a matter of proving who is right or wrong, it was doing the best that you could at the time.
Good Luck Woody, I think he must have the luck of the Irish.
Kind Regards
Heather.
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Post by lucia on Nov 3, 2009 20:27:52 GMT 1
Just wanted to clear something up - in contract law money must exchange hands in these sort of circumstances and it has to be a 'reasonable and realistic sum' £1 contrary to popular belief will not cut it in court if it can be proven that the 'purchase' was worth more than that. So you have to be extremely careful. Most £1 purchases of horses would not stand up in court! The amount that exchanged hands for Woody was token but entirely realistic and reasonable and will protect ALL parties. Heather and the IH team have done a marvellous thing....they have saved a horses life and the owner has been responsible given their circumstances. End of.
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Post by june on Nov 3, 2009 21:23:04 GMT 1
Would have been interesting to see the comments if Monty had said at the demo "there's a horse here that I think I could save by using the buckstopper, but I know there will be so much negativity about it I'm going to let him go to Potters on Weds".
The buckstopper is not something I'd ever use simply because I wouldn't want to deal with a horse that bucked enough that it was needed. But if someone who knows what they are doing uses it, it saves a horse's life and it ends up in a home where the checks will all be done and the horse will therefore have a future then absolutely, its the right thing to do.
In the real world people don't have unlimited budgets. They generally do their best and if that isn't good enough then they call it a day with a horse, either with a sale or a bullet. A sale is often unethical unless it is an honest sale to a genuinely knowlegdeable home. In this case I think the outcome was the best possible outcome for this horse. Well done to everyone involved for giving this horse a chance.
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Post by heather on Nov 3, 2009 22:01:28 GMT 1
Thanks June, that means a lot.
Heather
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2009 22:07:51 GMT 1
I would just like to add my support to those who have been and are involved in helping Woody. I agree with so many of the positive comments made. I've just one other thought to add. The diagnosis for gastric ulcers is not exactly nice for the horse, as well as being expensive. Flipping the coin for a moment, would it be fair to put a horse through that diagnosis procedure if at the end of it he was already so mentally scarred as to be unridable or even suitable as a companion? Let us not forget that it can be equally important to assess a horse's ability and willingness to move on, even once the physical has been dealt with. Woody passed the test with flying colours, by the sounds of it. If, though, he hadn't, would you then still put him through invasive medical diagnosis, followed by very expensive treatment? I doubt it. As it is, those involved in his future rehabilitation now know more of what they are taking on, positive as well as negative, so for me it was definitely worth it.
I like everyone else will look forwards to hearing of his progress.
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Post by handsonhorses on Nov 3, 2009 22:38:50 GMT 1
hi everyone, just want to clarify with thegaffer, that i am one of his new owners, not his previous owner and i think all the stress of the situation has very much been on them, and woody of course. i agree that unless you are in that situation yourself you can't possibly know what you would do or how you would react. For Dan, Erica and myself there was absolutely no stress involved in making the decision to buy Woody and take on whatever he throws at us. we all knew it was right and to be honest it wasn't even a decision really, we just knew we were doing it! we are in the very fortunate position that both myself and dan can offer our services without having to charge ourselves! so it will be much cheaper for us to get him sorted out than it would for most people. i certainly agree that woody does have the luck of the irish! he has landed on his feet really. there are lots of different therapists like me out there (though obviously i have to tell him that my treatments are far superior to any others he could have ended up having ....!! ) but there is only one Dan Wilson and the lucky bugger has ended up at his yard, so definitely one lucky chap! we are lucky too tho cos woody is a gorgeous character with a massive heart and i cant tell you how excited i am by all of this - tho still cant believe how much everyone is talking about him. i have told him he may have to start doing interviews and photo shoots so he can earn his keep!! he will be having all the necessary checks and healthcare, and at the moment he is an extremely settled horse, honestly, he is SO chilled! he has taken all of this in his stride and doesnt seem at all phased by his new found celebrity status. i think that everyone should just be really happy that such a wonderful horse has been given a chance at life again because at the end of the day that's all that really matters. all the hows whys and d'you mind if i dont's are pretty unimportant when it comes down to it and i for one just care about doing the best for woody now and ensuring that he has the best future possible katharine x
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Post by june on Nov 3, 2009 22:50:15 GMT 1
I wonder if we could have a Woody thread in the Hall of Fame section so you can keep us updated on how he's doing. Anyone else think that's a good idea? If so, I'll PM the mods.
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Post by Trouble on Nov 3, 2009 22:51:43 GMT 1
We all know, from Trouble's posts, the importance of the correct diagnosis, medical management and remedial training for this kind of condition before there can be any expectation of improvement - I doubt that Trouble would have made the strides she has with Snip today had she resorted to a demo and a buckstopper (Trouble, I hope you do not mind being used as an example here, but it is through your posts that I have gained some knowledge about ulcers and how they can affect behaviour). modified to add 'about' in the last sentence. Nope, don't mind at all! I'm always glad that some good can come out out what has been a hellish year. I would say, though, that I was lucky and had an open minded vet who found the problem quite quickly - if I hadn't, I'd have been stuck with a horse who was dangerous and unsaleable. If resorting to a demo and a buckstopper was what it took to get the help he needed, then I would have done. No question. Really good thread, really good to hear that there will be a happy ending for this horse! Just to add on the PTS issue - totally agree. I would not, even now, sell Snip on. I would far rather see him PTS than face an uncertain future. I would consider a closely monitored loan to the right person, if the situation arose, but not sell. He's too capable of being too dangerous.
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Post by handsonhorses on Nov 3, 2009 23:01:46 GMT 1
I wonder if we could have a Woody thread in the Hall of Fame section so you can keep us updated on how he's doing. Anyone else think that's a good idea? If so, I'll PM the mods. seriously....he is gonna be getting such a big head!!
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Post by mandal on Nov 3, 2009 23:08:51 GMT 1
I wonder if we could have a Woody thread in the Hall of Fame section so you can keep us updated on how he's doing. Anyone else think that's a good idea? If so, I'll PM the mods. I think it's a fantastic idea June!
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Post by handsonhorses on Nov 3, 2009 23:31:13 GMT 1
I think it's a fantastic idea too he deserves his own thread im gonna be without access to a computer for a few days but i will be back with updates soon lots of love to all katharine xx
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Post by june on Nov 3, 2009 23:32:15 GMT 1
Have emailed the Mods.
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Post by tobyh on Nov 4, 2009 0:37:16 GMT 1
Cant wait for the updates on this little guy, I truly hope it is the fairytale ending we all hope for.
It is certainly a heartwarming story, showing the love, care and dedication by a lot of people to ensure this horse horse has a safe and secure future.
I dont think any horse can ever ask for more.
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