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Post by shirecross on Aug 12, 2009 22:53:42 GMT 1
My percheron mare went very lame last week and at first I thought it was a tendon strain. Things didn't improve so I called the vet out who found and released an absess in the sole. I polticed it for 2 more days and no improvement. Farrier was visiting and dug around a bit more. Polticed again and still no better. A day later the abcess burst out through the coronet band. But still no improvement in the horse who is standing with her weight off the foot and moves very reluctantly. It has been a week now. The poltice when removed stinks dreadfully and the black gunge seems to be coming from down the side of her frog and seems very deep. I am debating whether to call the vet again but not sure whether they will have anything more for me to try. My mare is 4 months in foal.
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Post by anastasia55555 on Aug 13, 2009 7:51:14 GMT 1
i was under the impression to 'dig around' was the worst thing you could do to an abcess, but i could be wrong. Tbh i would call the vet, or a different vet to get it looked at. she is carrying extra weight at its got to be painful, and with more and more weight being gained it must be hurting more. it sounds like it still needs to be polticed, and maybe some treatment for infection if its possible as she is in foal.
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Post by Catrin on Aug 13, 2009 8:58:16 GMT 1
Next time you suspect an abcscess, remember it will find its own way out. It may emerge through the sole or, as in this case, the coronet band.
If you want to call the vet to deal with pain, that is fine - mine will give me bute if I ask for it. Do NOT, in any circumstances, let anyone dig a hole in the foot. This lets infection IN. Hence your abscess erupting at the coronet band and there being infection in the foot where the holes were dug.
This is what my equine vet, twenty years ago, Rhys ap Rh. Owen told me to do for anything suspected in the sole:
days 1, 2, 3 soak foot in hot water for ten minutes, apply hot animalintex, wrap in plastic and sacking, keep in stable; days 4, 5, 6 no soaking, epsom salts and glycerine mixed into a 'cheese' placed over 'injury' and apply dry poultice (I use nappies), wrap in plastic and sacking, keep in stable; days 7, 8, 9 keep wrapped with sacking and in stable, contact blacksmith and shoe with full pad.
I do the poulticing, when needed, exactly as he said. I wrap with plastic bags and gaffer tape and I restrict access to stable and concreted area, as movement helps the abscess drain, but you don't want to lose the dressing in mud or get dirt in. I don't use shoes.
After ten months of box rest, it took a long time to get Freyr's feet right and he could have got gold medals for Britain in abscessing, but he survived pain free, was sound in a week and no-one ever dug a hole in his foot.
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Post by anastasia55555 on Aug 13, 2009 9:34:07 GMT 1
good advice :-)
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Post by barbararob on Aug 13, 2009 10:03:51 GMT 1
A blue spray (mainly sold for sheep and cattle) always deals with mine, It's called combat by provita - I recommend it every time, purely because I've seen what it does.
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Post by twiglet on Aug 13, 2009 10:46:53 GMT 1
One of my horses had a deep abcess at the point of the frog.
His treatment (in France) couldn't have been more different that described above.
In brief, the vet did make a hole to release the abcess, relief was immediate (previously the horse could hardly walk as he was in so much pain) I was given some medication to dress the wound which was covered for a few days with vet wrap and duct tape: a few days with just vet wrap: then cleaned twice daily for some time with no dressing. He did tell me how quickly the sole grows. No poulticing at all and immediate turnout!
I am not suggesting this should be followed just giving insight to a different approach.
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Post by shirecross on Aug 13, 2009 12:19:48 GMT 1
Mmm advice seems to difer. Spoke to vet this morning and she said we were doing the right things but would come out and have another look. She managed to remove the poltice last night so have had to give it a good scrub. She is looking very "tucked up" and back of leg is very swollen. Still very reluctant to weight bear and looking very sad! She has access to a small paddock but prefers to stand in the stabel. Not eating much which is quite a worry so am giving her chaff and some mare and youngstock pencils 3 times a day. She and the foal are sharing the feeds.
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Post by mandal on Aug 13, 2009 12:50:39 GMT 1
I'm glad the vet is coming out again. Normally abscesses feel much better once they've burst and with the swelling it sounds like a second vet opinion is definitely in order. Good luck.
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Post by Kayti on Aug 14, 2009 8:26:17 GMT 1
definately keep in touch with the vet if the improvement isnt noticable in a day or 2.
A friend lost a pony when the burst poulticed abcess in turn infected her leg, lymph system and ultimately she couldn't fight the infection, had some kind of blind panic fits when the emergency vet was treating her late at night and had to be put to sleep, all within a week of first being found lame. I suspect that there was more going on than just the infection but it was enough to trigger the bigger problems.
Something simple can so easily turn bad, Good luck
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Post by mandal on Aug 14, 2009 10:11:27 GMT 1
Any news yet? I hope the vet has knows what is going on and has taken action. How is she today? Her reduced eating,swelling of leg, depressed demeanor and not wanting to move are to me signs that there is more to this than a straight forward abscess. I don't want to worry you but I would be concerned by what you are describing and (((hugs)))
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Post by shirecross on Aug 14, 2009 16:09:36 GMT 1
Different vet came today. She seemed very confident that it was a deep rooted abcess and cut away more hoof. Instructions were to clean and dry dress hoof twice a day (no more poulticing); give bute for 2 days and there should be a noticeable improvement with 24 hours.
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Post by mandal on Aug 14, 2009 22:17:46 GMT 1
Oh good fingers crossed she improves soon.
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Post by shirecross on Aug 15, 2009 16:06:55 GMT 1
24 hours have passed and although she is bearing weight on the abcessed foot she won't move. Her back legs are under her body and it took 3 of us to change the hoof dressing as she was struggling to support herself. I have rung the vet (an emergency one as it is Saturday) and he said there was nothing more he could do for her. Then I rang the stud vet and he said the same except that he would come out and x-ray her on Monday. I am very worried about her condition, she is so sad. Foal keeps coming for some milk from her but I am not sure how much milk she is producing. Why does the veterinary world stop helping horses just because it's the weekend???
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Post by mandal on Aug 15, 2009 16:42:30 GMT 1
Gosh how worrying!!! All you can do is go with your instincts and insist a vet come out and explain that you're worried. Have they taken any bloods, has she a temperature?? Has she had a full exam? Sitting here reading what you have written I still have a feeling that there is more going on then just a straightforward hoof abscess. I've dealt with only about 4 abscesses and none were like you describe... once they had burst or drained the pain was massively relieved and the horses all walked fairly happily almost straight away. Perhaps someone else has experienced this? Is she eating and drinking?
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Post by anastasia55555 on Aug 15, 2009 19:08:24 GMT 1
:-( Thats really rubbish!! i think i would be trying every vet possible. I would also be concerned about how much the foal is receiving and whether it needs further feeds/supplementation (i dont know much about this but others on here will, might be worth posting on the general talk forum) I hope things pick up for you
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