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Post by mags on Dec 21, 2008 10:05:16 GMT 1
erm can you not put idea's in my head pla. Just been ticking off symtoms that match and Dan has alot too lol. Its the Never ever start looking in medical books thing
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Post by heather on Dec 21, 2008 12:02:58 GMT 1
He sounds very much like my Lusitano gelding, Sedutor (Sudi). He put Becky in hospital, flattening her against a concrete block wall when we first had him, also running over her right arm and leg- she still has the marks on her leg- and narrowly missed me at least three times. He would usually spin incredibly quickly and always in the direction of the person leading!
This is what got me into IH, tbh! My friend and then sales manager, Jill Shephard was an RA and she taught me to get him to respect my space.
He is one of the best to lead now, although he is still spooky, but at least doesnt spin anymore. Under saddle he would spin so fast, my head touched his bum, with the sheer G forces! You could never, ever see what had scared him, and like your boy, the things you would expect to scare him, he couldnt care less about! Big scarey plastic sacks flapping, piece of cake, walks over them, even has the audacity to pick one up and carry it!- chucking things like gym balls round the school, umbrellas going up and down. No problems. This was always the problem, the fact that you never, ever knew when it was likely to happen, so couldnt even prepare for the spin.
Time and patience has been the real essence with Sudi. Becky did a lot of long reining with him after the IH groundwork ( he wasnt safe to work in hand!) but he was still extremely tense under saddle. I have had to ride him on a very loose rein, which I prefer anyway!- and build his confidence up by showing him I am not afraid. He is getting better by the week- and is so, so light in the hand, whereas before, he was pretty strong at times due to his extreme energy and tension. Now I even have to say 'wakey wakey' to him when we start a schooling session!
It will be a while before he is fully confident in other places, so we have to start to take him to shows etc in the spring and get him as happy about going to a party!
Heather
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Post by mags on Dec 21, 2008 16:40:54 GMT 1
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Post by heather on Dec 21, 2008 16:44:30 GMT 1
Pity no one took any of me riding him at the EE Christmas 'Do'! He was a star, didnt turn a hair and was nearly as relaxed as he normally is now! Will try to get some after Christmas.
Heather
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Post by mags on Dec 21, 2008 16:56:28 GMT 1
Look forward to them heather Re the diet, that looks easy. Sugar beet and couple cups oil, may even try dan on it.Although the fat git doesnt need any feed atm, he'll explode in summer if he doesnt go off soon
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Post by heather on Dec 21, 2008 18:28:43 GMT 1
Feed made a huge difference to Sudi, Mags and keeping him out 24/7 for as long as possible- he is still out (rugged) now! Equilibra for some reason, sent him completely OTT, and when we cut it out of his diet, although he didnt improve overnight, it was definintely better. He is fine on Top Spec, and we have him on Mag Ox too.
Heather
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Post by peppertop on Dec 23, 2008 0:30:28 GMT 1
Hi Mags, Sorry been in Isle of Man teaching for a couple of days so didn't see this. Thats the website I found useful for the Espm stuff, there are others but the jist of it is to change the diet. Won't harm Dan to be on it as is safe for any horses, my laminitic gets lots of oil and she's fine on it.
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Post by Persianhorse on Dec 23, 2008 4:18:31 GMT 1
Hi, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. I believe in one way which I have don all my life, As you all know Internet and our communications is almost from 2005. Confidence building as humans (which we are Predators to the Horses eye) is to become almost a horse and live with them Day and Night, Travel with them , To become a horse to understand a horse, then we could Establish TRUST in order to Gain their confidence, we have to gain therefore we have to give then gain.I know my way is hard to many of you wonderful people but this is what I believe in , this is my personal experience my friend, I am not saying you should do what I have don , I am only saying this is what I have simply don all my life. - Knowing the body language of the horse is so important and our own way of body language in order to communicate and signal back with them and understanding them. - Our CALMNESS is so much important even our EYES, MOVEMENTS OF OUR BODY PARTS and so on, For example if we are stressed we should never go near because they are able to read our body language from distance. - Never work with a horse if you don't feel good specially in tempered situations. - The crucial work is from ( -0 to 0 ) not from ( 0 to 1 ), Specially give them a JOB or WORK to do, (Important for the Horse). - Sometimes doing nothing and just observation is greater than doing something specially if we do it wrong. Forgive me for the uppercase letters , I put them because I think they are crucial.Wish you the best of luck, PH.
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