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Post by sarahfox on Dec 22, 2007 21:07:03 GMT 1
Money.unfortunately.Horses just dont sell for enough over here,even good ones.Just do the sums for a good quality but not spectacular horse,add up the stud fees,registration,vets fees,then add on the cost to keep it for 3 years and then basic training,nobody wants to pay enough to make it worthwile,especially if its done properly.Im suprised anybody scrapes a living from breeding anymore.
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Post by Emily+Meg on Dec 22, 2007 23:26:21 GMT 1
thats true enough sf. I just wanted to add I dont agree with hunting a 3yr old, in case it came across like that
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Post by lindaandrascal on Dec 23, 2007 0:00:20 GMT 1
Babies should be babies BUT money talks! I suppose they get more more for a horse thats done a bit of everything than one who hasnt. Its all about money these days!
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Post by sara on Dec 23, 2007 0:29:41 GMT 1
It is very sad that the poor filly is having so much done so soon., I so wish I had lots of money, so I could buy them all, let them be babies for a couple of years, then find them nice homes when they are old enough to deal with it
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Post by kpick on Dec 23, 2007 0:36:52 GMT 1
Unfortunatly I see so many like this. No offence to anyone ment, but alot of the dealers in Ireland take horses hunting at 3 and get them sold. When I was at Judi's last year we got tons of 4/5 year olds who had been out hunting for a good season or two, to prove the horse is 'good enough to go across irelands terrain'.
Wasnt a nice thing to see, and more often then not those horses we're sick of jumping. We had one little mare in which was going to make a superstar, hunted at 3 and a half, only 3-4 times but all the same, and had been jumpjumpjumped. Got her in when I first started in May, sold her about a week before I left in September, she was my project for the time I was there. First time i jumped her she dumped me actually, I remember it well. When we sold her she was jumping courses again, and it took all that time, 5-6 days a week riding to get her to the point jumping was fun again, was a tough one to break.
As for clipping, obviously not in this horses case, but there are often reasons for youngsters being clipped. My friend kept a 2 year old with me for a time who had a skin irritation and best way to treat it was to clip her.
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Post by janetgeorge on Dec 23, 2007 19:54:26 GMT 1
Echo Rach on the 'still growing', poor girl. No wonder she looks so gangly and messy when jumping I suspect that was due more to the seriously cr*p riding! Some poor idiot will buy her and wonder why she is showing signs of serious joint problems by the time she's 6! Hell I've put back my colt's grading until he's 4 as they have to loose school down a line of jumps and I won't do THAT with a 3 year old who is still growing!
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Post by eden on Dec 23, 2007 19:57:48 GMT 1
oh right I do see what you mean, but this one had a full clip! it was a tb.
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Post by natalia on Dec 23, 2007 20:46:02 GMT 1
Most irish youngsters are started like this, as are most SJ horses aimed at the 4 yr old classes in the spring. Its unfortunate but often irish horses arew backed and then taken hunting only a couiple of weeks after being sat on for the first time! I can't say I agree with it but the majority are then sent to the sales and sold to English dealers, who bring them over here and then re sell them. You don't often get many older irish horses being imported, although I have just bought an 8yr old pony who has just come over and worked in Ireland as PC pony.
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Post by rhonda on Dec 24, 2007 11:09:50 GMT 1
That height of jumping is way to much but having here clipped i see know problem with that, i work at a showjumping yard and the 3 year olds there are clipped, better getting them used to it young i would say.
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Post by paddywak on Dec 25, 2007 14:26:19 GMT 1
its isnt right, but it is definatly not uncommon we brought a nice little cob for my brother a couple of years ago advertised as 5 then 4 when we saw him then vet aged him as rising 4 so had prob hunted as 2/3 yr old , luckily only lightly and he did nothing strenous with us. I dont think horses should hunt until 4 personally and even then lightly. and personally i dont think they should be backed until 3 although dont hugely object to a small person sitting on them at 2 1/2 but no movement!! x
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Post by iammizz on Dec 25, 2007 18:09:50 GMT 1
if anything it makes me wonder about the training from the start, my boy is really laid back but sharp and flighty (hes 3 and a half ) now we have just started him and he has been great no probs at all, however if i faced him with jumps etc he would flip and rightly so. So i worry about the training from the time they are babies, that makes them jump so accurate at that age
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Post by kya on Dec 25, 2007 18:56:38 GMT 1
I bought my Irish horse thinking he was five, discovered he was four and was competed at three! No damage to his sturdy legs, but yikes!
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