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Post by joto on Dec 26, 2007 19:11:54 GMT 1
I'd be very much inclined to get a second equine vets opinion on this pony if you want to keep her.
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Post by Gail&Merlin on Dec 26, 2007 19:53:52 GMT 1
Has she done driving ?? AS she seems like she uses her chest as though pulling a trap etc, Hence maybe why her head goes up ?? What work did she do before she came to u? was she mainly used for hacking? I know you also state she is unfit, so maybe not used to schooling work?? Do you ride gail? if so have you rode to see if there is any difference in riders style, hence horse acts different? just thinking of other things to try as vet seemed happy. x We dont really know to be honest, she was imported a few months ago, so chances are she has been pulling, i think shes also been racing or something as her anticipation is very obvious, you have to calm her down, it could also be why when you change transition the head comes up, till she thinks OH were not galloping then..lol..I do ride but havent for quite a while so im probably not the best person to get on her, definately worth a go though.
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Post by mags on Dec 26, 2007 19:55:15 GMT 1
Ok honestly I was concerned when the vet said she was slightly sore yet he would pass her sound... I dont normally like disagreeing with vets but he cannot possibley know for sure she is just foot sore. Afraid I cant see the vids on here but if your concerned id take that as there is a problem and afraid unless she is special enough to try sorting it, id send her back.
Trust your judgement if you think there is a problem. You see the horse every day not the pro's
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Post by mags on Dec 26, 2007 19:56:07 GMT 1
Has jenny had a look for you yet?
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Post by Gail&Merlin on Dec 26, 2007 20:12:20 GMT 1
no jenny hasnt been over mags, we had her booked for a lesson, but cancelled it as elsa was pretty lame after i box rested her, shes much better when left on the move.. Will get jamielee to ring the dealer again, as i dont want a lawnmower this early on in a relationship..
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Post by jennyb on Dec 26, 2007 21:20:00 GMT 1
Well, after what I have been through with lame horses, I would send her back. For the price you've paid there are enough out there that are at least sound and ready to work. Sounds to me like Jamie Lee wants to start doing a bit more, and given what has happened so far I'm worried that she will just be frustrated with her in the long run. It's very sad and a very tough decision, at the end of the day it's your decision though, you know what's right for you and JL. Try not to let emotion for the horse creep in, try to be hard and take a step back whilst you decide what to do. If you keep her she might well turn out to be a cracker with some work, but equally she might always give you cause for concern! But then so might others..... It's really not an easy choice
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Post by Gail&Merlin on Dec 26, 2007 21:55:53 GMT 1
Well weve txted the dealer, just to prepare her, but will ring her tomorrow, i dont feel like we have much choice really, you right jenny, jamielee does want to do more and i think elsa is a big risk that she'll come right even if we paid out for loads of vets investigations and schooled her..well now the decision has been made, what are the bets on the dealer being awkward.
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Post by emma on Dec 26, 2007 22:00:19 GMT 1
If I was you Gail I'd send her back and save even more heartache in the future. It's always hard sending them back. I had a thoroughbred on trial two years ago and felt there was something wrong with him, he didn't move right. I sent him back. I found out this year he has kissing spines and has had to be retired at the age of 7. Only you can decide and I hope everything works out for you
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Post by gilly on Dec 26, 2007 22:01:41 GMT 1
She's a very pretty little mare Gail, but she definitely does not look comfortable. I think Jamielee was riding her really well in the vids, but Elsa is very tense in her back, neck and hindquarters and certainly looks to be in some pain/discomfort. Good luck with the dealer, hope everything works out for you, and I hope you find the perfect horse very soon x
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Post by dizzy on Dec 27, 2007 11:11:45 GMT 1
I agree with what a lot of others have said, send her back as soon as you can. Horses get things wrong with them all the time, you don't need to buy one with problems already and it could cost you a fortune and a lot of heartache trying to get to the bottom of it. We were in a similar situation last year and kept the mare, she never did come right but we spent an awful lot of money trying to find out why and the only thing which kept coming back was her conformation was awful (and this was a mare who had been bred from and sold to us as a brood mare!) I hope it all works out easily for you and Jamielee. BTW, I love haffies, we had an imported one too a few years back, lovely breed and very versatile.
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Post by chitori on Dec 27, 2007 14:21:52 GMT 1
Personally to my untrained eye she looks unbalanced - scarlet does a similar thing when going into canter and cantering but is totally fine now in walk and trot. Does she do it when longreined? Have you tried changing the bridle/saddle/rider to try and determine where the problem might be coming from?
I think she could make a good jumping pony, she looks like she needs a fair bit of work though!
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Post by pinkpony on Dec 27, 2007 14:48:43 GMT 1
Oh poor you guys. What a tuff thing to decide already!! If your daughter does want to go on and do stuff, is this pone going to be uptoit?? Hope things work out.
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Post by specialsparkle3 on Dec 27, 2007 15:02:21 GMT 1
As you know Gail, I rarely comment on ridden threads, but to me this looks like an unschooled, unbalanced pony, who may, or may not have a back problem. I don't think the possible unsoundness comes from her hind legs. This sort of pony, who very thick through the throat ( no offence ) always has more of a problem with head carriage and when contact is taken they often hollow their backs and stick their noses in the air as it can be uncomfortable to flex. However, the last video shows a great improvement on this front. To be perfectly honest, and no doubt I will now get shouted at, but it IS just my opinion. I don't think a Haflinger is a suitable breed to do the job that your daughter aspires to. They don't have the right sort of conformation or good enough paces. It's such a shame.
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Post by mags on Dec 27, 2007 17:45:12 GMT 1
SS3 your braver than me lol I didnt think she was a suitable type for the job required but wasnt brave enough to say Gail I suspect the more experience your daughter gets the more ambitious she will get and if you go for something more athletic it will pay off long term
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