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Post by gem on Aug 2, 2007 11:33:25 GMT 1
Oh dear poor you what a worry - I dont think Sarah has had any problems with that so far (I hope)
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Post by andaloosa on Aug 2, 2007 15:46:37 GMT 1
Hi there I think you answered your own question about being feral. I once rescued some NF ponies who clearly were feral. When they pooped it was like a can of spaghetti!!! Anyway, they had NO respect for electric tape, just ran through it. I guess they are used to a certain degree of pain, so that wouldn't mean much. Can you post and rail it? I know it's expensive, can;t think of anything else.
I wrote to a breeder friend a few days ago who is French. This is what he said about the horses up for rescue:
Bonjour Tania, you are right, a lot of horses are fattened in France for the Italian meat market. Some of them come from spain, others are bred in France. These large herds are held by farmers who breed horses the same way they would have breed cows. In these herds you may find semi-wild horses, just bred for meat without any selection, saddle or draft horses sold there because they could not do the job they were bred for (for several reasons, body or mind problems) and probably very few good horses bought at low prices here and there. Horse sellers from all over France go there to find some horses to be used as trail horses in touristic places during the summer. Sometimes they are lucky and find a good one who will be bought and kept by a rider. Usualy the others go back to the meat market. Some people buy mares, put them in foal at low cost and make some profit selling the foals. But where can you sell such a foal? I dont think it's the right place to buy a horse if you are not a professional horse seller. These farmers use the rescue system to make some more profit on there horses.
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Post by rosemaryhannah on Aug 2, 2007 23:16:06 GMT 1
Forgive me saying: horses which needed work - so it was easier to sell them for meat.
Sorry about the escapologist - I have one. Love him to bits, and mains electric does do some good. The only hope is her gradually settling down (bet you anything she is looking for her old herd) and once she has a foal, the foal not being so good at escaping, and therby kind-of teathering her.
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Post by marianne on Aug 4, 2007 10:04:36 GMT 1
we have never had horses ever escape before. There is no reason to. They have food, company, water and shelter. I wonder whether the heavier breeds are less sensitive to the current? I have two yearlings comptois/percheron crosses and they also make a mockery of the electric fencing. There's rarely a week goes by without me getting a call on the mobile to tell me one or other's out again (and there are 3 other horses, shade, water, and lots of long grass in the field they're "in") I've actually reduced the size of the field to reduce the amount of fencing, hoping that the electric pulse will be stronger . It's connected to the mains too so it can't get any stronger than that! Good luck xxx
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Post by Lucy on Aug 4, 2007 10:21:28 GMT 1
Marianne, do you have 'La sanglière' electric fencing?
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Post by lcardwell06 on Aug 4, 2007 18:08:19 GMT 1
LOvely photos good luckwith her when is foal due?
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Post by morse98 on Aug 4, 2007 18:19:57 GMT 1
I have Lancia(percheron mare) have put up electric fencing connected to a battery/energiser and she doesn't go near it at all! Good for me I think although luckily we are over 1km away from the road. Have you managed to find out when her foal is due? please let us know.
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Post by malikariverbaby on Aug 6, 2007 17:39:56 GMT 1
I know this sounds a bit drastic but a chain around the neck cured (hopefully) River. You need a chain that will conduct electricity and attach it around the neck with a bit hanging down (like a necklace). Make sure to connect it with a little piece of wire that will break in an emergency. This results in the shock going around the neck not just at the point of contact. You need mains or very strong battery power for this to work. I also use tape and string for each line so they are doubled up. Secure each corner post with string or something to a tree as corners are favourite place to get out. Also make sure the fence is high enough and that the tape is not too low. Do try the chain thing because then the shock has nothing to do with you. i am always a bit unsure of loring a horse to touch a fence coz they might not trust you afterwards. Good luck you have done a great thing!!!
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Post by sixfootblonde on Aug 6, 2007 23:47:25 GMT 1
Thanks for ideas and replies. Thankfully, since she escaped the last time, she has stayed put! Even if the electric fence is not on. Still would not trust her not to escape though, has to prove herself for a while first. She is still in quarantine in our little paddock away from the others. Lucky for her my dad has been in there every day, nearly all day, for the last three days - as this is where we store our hay and he is building a roof for our hay Guinevere seems so very chilled. She even is beginning to let me pick up her front feet & picked one out yesterday. Progress!!! She lets herself be caught easily, but I wonder what she will be like in a real field?! Still headshy, but not as bad. LOVES being brushed. Has no idea what a carrot, apple or swede is. Or for that matter salt/mineral licks. She has been dewormed and deloused now. She wickered to me this evening as I was walking round her paddock. Here are a couple of photos I took this evening...
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Post by morse98 on Aug 7, 2007 6:27:55 GMT 1
Sixfootblonde, Progress indeed, Lancia still won't let me pick her feet up lol. Guinevere looks happier now and I love her face
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Post by sarahfox on Aug 7, 2007 11:01:17 GMT 1
great news! glad to hear that you are getting on so well with her,I'm sure by the time she goes out she will have learnt enough.
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Post by sixfootblonde on Aug 9, 2007 13:52:20 GMT 1
The dentist came out today. She would not let him do much to her teeth and he did not push. But he managed to have a good look and said she is definately around 20 years old. He managed to slide the rasp in gently and said the edges were smooth already. So not too much to worry about. She is always whickering now when she sees the food coming. Although there is a slight annoyance about being touched whilst eating - so need to watch that. Any ideas about dealing with that? She is still in quarantine, has lost a little weight (not a bad thing as she was rather overweight), seems to hang round people although not completely trusting. The dentist thought she had a lovely energy about her. I see we were in 4 local papers. Will scan them in and post them in due course
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Post by gem on Aug 9, 2007 15:34:14 GMT 1
I have had no reply from any of our local papers - what did you write??
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Post by sarahfox on Aug 9, 2007 17:52:14 GMT 1
re touchy when fed,I would suggest you withhold feed and water until she can be nice again!!! Seems to work for pat parelli.
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Post by suzieq on Aug 9, 2007 18:40:53 GMT 1
Another dentist visit today! Glad yours went well too. Have you tried hand feeding or just holding the bucket?
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